Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Op 12-12-2012 23:52, Tom Ehlert schreef: and 4DOS (which produces this error message) is NOT part of FreeDOS. FreeDOS 1.1 contains 4DOS (v8.00, as maintained and improved by Lucho) as an alternative shell (config.sys option 3 or so, FreeCom is default). Bernd -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Hi Tom, others, I tested again the copy from network drive. There were about 15 files in the server, to be copied to the client, about 8 MB altogether. Results: - xcopy (FreeDOS): Copied only 3 files before getting stuck and abandoning the task with the error message: unimplemented internal dos function INT2F/120A cannot open source file - xxcopy16 (Pixelab): Missed about 5 files, with same error message as above, but went on and copied the others. Couldn't gather more details because had only 10 minutes to do the tests :=( Regards, Marcos --- Mensagem enviada pelo webmail da MPC Internet: a Internet que funciona. http://www.mpc.com.br -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
On Dec 13, 2012 3:34 PM, fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote: Hi Tom, others, I tested again the copy from network drive. There were about 15 files in the server, to be copied to the client, about 8 MB altogether. Results: - xcopy (FreeDOS): Copied only 3 files before getting stuck and abandoning the task with the error message: unimplemented internal dos function INT2F/120A cannot open source file - xxcopy16 (Pixelab): Missed about 5 files, with same error message as above, but went on and copied the others. Couldn't gather more details because had only 10 minutes to do the tests :=( Regards, Marcos It looks like a critical error is occurring (the retry, ignore, or fail message would probably be displayed if the indicated function was implemented - it is documented as an internal call used when executing an existing dos function). I am not sure the cause of the critical error. It might be an easy enough function to implement so the critical error details can be retrieved. Possible errors could include locking violation, sharing violation, read faults, drive not ready ... Jeremy -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Hi, We are facing a difficulty with the 'copy' command in the network of our Health Center. We occasionally need to copy files from the server to the local disks of client machines. I have been doing these copies by means of file managers such as Navigator, NDN or Connect, and it is straightforward. However, we want to spare the users the trouble of learning how to use a file manager. So I wrote a simple batch file to do the copying. To my surprise, it failed, with the error message Lock violation or something to that effect. a) please take the time and report THE FULL AND EXACT WORDING OF THE ERROR MESSAGE and not 'SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT'. b) are these files in use by other machines ? possibly database files ? is this error happening on ALL files, or can you copy other files ? c) installing share on the client will have no effect Tom -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Hi, Tom, So I wrote a simple batch file to do the copying. To my surprise, it failed, with the error message Lock violation or something to that effect. a) please take the time and report THE FULL AND EXACT WORDING OF THE ERROR MESSAGE and not 'SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT'. The machines are in a location rather distant from my home. Tomorrow I'll be in the neighbourhood, and will get the exact wording. b) are these files in use by other machines ? possibly database files ? Yes, these are DataPerfect database files. They are used every day by the server itself and (currently) another 7 client machines. The system is very stable. is this error happening on ALL files, or can you copy other files ? The error happens with any file, including those in a different share, completely unrelated to the database. Please note that files *can* be copied -- if a file manager is used. It is only the 'copy' command that is failing, both in the command line and within a batch file. Regards, Marcos -- Marcos Fávero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Please note that files *can* be copied -- if a file manager is used. It is only the 'copy' command that is failing, both in the command line and within a batch file. I found somewhere that 4DOS seems to try to lock the files (and fails sometimes). are you using 4DOS as a shell ? does XCOPY possibly work better ? Regards, Marcos -- Marcos Fávero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Kind regards Tom Ehlert +49-241-79886 -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Hi Tom, I found somewhere that 4DOS seems to try to lock the files (and fails sometimes). are you using 4DOS as a shell ? Yes, 4DOS is the shell both in server and in clients. does XCOPY possibly work better ? Tomorrow I intend to test XCOPY, as well as XXCOPY16 by Kan Yabumoto of Pixelab, Inc. Marcos -- Marcos Fávero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Hi Tom, From: Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de searching for 'msdos lock violation', the 2nd entry is http://comp.os.msdos.4dos.narkive.com/Qbd7ANyv/lock-violation-on-a-lan and 4DOS (which produces this error message) is NOT part of FreeDOS. That seems to be what I need. Now I just have to test it. Thanks a lot! In case anyone else is interested, here is what it says: John Sowden, 2004-11-25: when I attempt to copy a file accross a lan (netbios type lan) I get a lock violation error wne using the latest/last version of 4dos. I have tried a previous version of 4dos with no prblem. What's changed? What's the work arround? Charles Dye, 2004-11-27: This issue was mentioned in the support forum a few months back. Apparently 4DOS attempts to lock the source file before the COPY starting with version 7.01. [...] if it's a peer-to-peer network and the remote machine is running some version of DOS, then loading SHARE on the remote machine might conceivably help. If all else fails, just use XCOPY for this specific situation. Marcos -- Marcos Fávero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Op 11-12-2012 23:26, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros schreef: Hi, We are facing a difficulty with the 'copy' command in the network of our Health Center. What's running? SMB using MS-Client? NFS using something? I guess you used shares mapped to driveletters. The SHARE program might solve your issue. Otherwise the server perhaps has issues, instead of the clients. Perhaps one of the disks at http://www.veder.com/nwdsk/ could be a solution, or http://www.netbootdisk.com/ In other words: I've got no idea, keep trying stuff till you run out of ideas. Bernd -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
Do the problems also happen with MS-DOS on the client, or plain FreeDOS (without 4DOS) on the client? Also, does XCOPY work even if COPY doesn't (don't know if 4DOS even has an XCOPY)? I'm not necessarily suggesting any of these as a permanent solution (though they could be), but simply trying to isolate what/where the problem might be. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
From: Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl What's running? SMB using MS-Client? NFS using something? I guess you used shares mapped to driveletters. The SHARE program might solve your issue. Otherwise the server perhaps has issues, instead of the clients. Sorry, I forgot to say. Here are the answers: - It's an MS-Client network running the NetBIOS protocol. - Yes, shares are mapped to driveletters. - And yes, I'm using the SHARE program in the server. From: Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com Do the problems also happen with MS-DOS on the client, or plain FreeDOS (without 4DOS) on the client? I'll do some more testing along these lines next time I go to the Health Center. Should take a few days though, as I'm very busy now. From: dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com The issue here appears to be in the network layer, and will likely bite with XCOPY as well as COPY. I think the prior suggestion of loading SHARE amy be the right answer. As said above, SHARE is loaded in the server. (Actually I thought the network wouldn't even work without it.) From: Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de Have you tried smbclient? It accesses Samba / Windows shares in the same style as ftp accesses FTP servers. So there is no drive letter but also no big driver to have around. Might work more reliable than MSCLIENT... From: Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com [..] At least one of the possible culprits (file managers, FreeDOS, or 4DOS) is obviously doing something different than the others, and it's worth at least a little effort to try and find out what that is, IMO. If it turns out to be a FreeDOS problem (and I suspect FreeDOS more than 4DOS or the file managers, based on past experience), it might be the same reason he can't use FreeDOS on the server, and it can all be fixed at once. I hesitate to go for Linux/Samba on the server, firstly because I'm a FreeDOS fan, and secondly because I've been told that a Samba server is not easy to set up. As an aside, let me say that FreeDOS has already had at least one substantial improvement with regard to networking. This is what I wrote at the time: Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:13:00 -0300 (BRT) Subject: Problem solved by new kernel It is my pleasure to report that kernel 2039 solved the problem that we discussed in 2008 under the title Can write but not read network share. It was related to the unimplemented internal dos function INT2F/120a error message while running MS-Client. The client computer now correctly sees the shared folders and files of the server, either directly with the dir command, or through different file managers. I have checked this twice by reverting to kernel 2038, and the problem reappears. Maybe other factors such as different configuration files also played a role, as I sometimes experiment with these, but my guess is that the credit should go to kernel 2039. JemmEx now works well in conjunction with MS-Client, whereas with the previous kernel it crashed often. Thanks for the improvement! Regards, Marcos Florence Marcos -- Marcos Fávero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Copy from network drive
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros fav...@mpcnet.com.br wrote: I hesitate to go for Linux/Samba on the server, firstly because I'm a FreeDOS fan, and secondly because I've been told that a Samba server is not easy to set up. Samba servers aren't that hard to set up, and it would be the way I'd go. Essentially, Samba implements the SMB protocol used by Microsoft networking. It allows Unix/Linux machines to be peers on Microsoft networks, and even be domain controllers. I've implemented Samba in a heterogeneous network to let Windows clients map directories on a Unix server as shared network drives. It's possible to get MS-DOS clients to communicate with servers running Samba. This might be a place to start: http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/samba/index.html If I'm going to have a server machine, I prefer to have it run an OS intended for servers, even if the clients are all DOS. Marcos Florence __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
