Re: [Freedos-user] Formatting 6 MB hard disk in FAT16
/U is unconditional, it will test all and take a lng time I haven't tried /U on HD yet (works for floppy). /S is to copy the system (freedos) Or copy files manually after brewing the FS and finally fire SYS.COM to activate the kernel. -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Formatting 6 MB hard disk in FAT16
12-May-2010 числа в 23:23 часов, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros написал(а) следующее: I'm trying to reformat for FreeDOS a 6 GB hard drive that previously had Windows 98. After running Fdisk to create three 2 GB partitions and make one bootable, I ran Format, but it gave the error message: Try ranish partition magic. -- /4625 () кампания ascii ribbon - против писем в html формате /\ www.asciiribbon.org - против проприетарных вложений -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Formatting 6 MB hard disk in FAT16
Hi Marcos, FDISK /MBR FORMAT C: /S /U Win98? Default BPB *FAT1x* 1024 sectors/FAT, 512 root size, FAT32 Forced. Access Denied! LOCK problem? Aborting. [Error 55] With 1024 sectors per FAT you would have 256*1024 clusters, very im-plausible. Remember that FORMAT gets information about suggested FAT size from DOS (kernel) and that FAT16 partitions smaller than 32 MB have a different partition type byte than those larger than 32 MB and/or those in LBA... Talking about which, why only 6 MB for DOS? Are you trying to squeeze DOS in a hole between some already existing multi GB partitions? That should be avoided - better use a decent partitioning and resize tool (e.g. GPARTED, e.g. from a boot CD) to give DOS a FAT16 (or FAT32) LBA partition with a few dozen or even a few 100 MB size :-). Another important issue: You sometimes have to do a REBOOT after FDISK before you run FORMAT to make sure that DOS updates all calculations about what a good FAT size etc would be! Also, without LBA, partitions must be in the first 1024 cyl (8 GB) of the disk, but the small FAT16 partition type and FAT12 partition type are NOT available with LBA: 01 FAT12 (not recommended for harddisk) 04 FAT16 SMALL (max 32 MB, not recommended for harddisk) 05 extended 06 FAT16 (min 32 MB) 0b FAT32 0c FAT32 LBA *recommended* 0e FAT16 LBA (min 32 MB) *recommended* 0f extended LBA It also matters which kernel you use - FreeDOS kernels 2038 or maybe 2039 should work well. Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Formatting 6 MB hard disk in FAT16
Em 13-05-2010 10:49, dos386 escreveu: Or copy files manually after brewing the FS and finally fire SYS.COM to activate the kernel. No, never copy manualy, that is only for (very) advanced users. SYS.COM is very important and is working just fine Alain -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Formatting 6 MB hard disk in FAT16
One important thing to try is to format a small partition. Some BIOs don't work well with big disks... alain Em 13-05-2010 14:47, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros escreveu: Alain wrote: First try this: Boot from a Freedos floppy, FDISK /MBR FORMAT C: /S /U this should put your partition in shape :) Tried three times ... result only slightly better than yesterday. Error message today: Win98? Default BPB *FAT1x* 1024 sectors/FAT, 512 root size, FAT32 Forced. Access Denied! LOCK problem? Aborting. [Error 55] Yesterday there was one more line in the beginning: Boot sector contents implausible, disk not yet FAT formatted So, we are one line closer to the solution :-) Marcos -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Formatting 6 MB hard disk in FAT16
On 2010/05/14 00:49 (GMT+0200) Eric Auer composed: ...without LBA, partitions must be in the first 1024 cyl (8 GB) of the disk, but the small FAT16 partition type and FAT12 partition type are NOT available with LBA: That probably depends on the kernel. 01 FAT12 (not recommended for harddisk) Not uncommonly I create these, and anywhere on disk I please, but usually as placeholders for kernels that expect or require some particular partition(s) to be in some particular logical order on disk that isn't practical or possible unless placeholder or dummy partitions are placed only or primarily for that purpose. Sometimes I'll make an 01 or 11 primary in order to reserve the place on disk for a boot manager that requires its own partition. 04 FAT16 SMALL (max 32 MB, not recommended for harddisk) When disks were 100M or less, this was the type I depended on. This and 16B of sizes between 16M and 128M produce least cluster overhang waste. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Formatting 6 MB hard disk in FAT16
First try this: Boot from a Freedos floppy, FDISK /MBR FORMAT C: /U this should put your partition in shape :) Alain Em 12-05-2010 23:23, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros escreveu: Hi, I'm trying to reformat for FreeDOS a 6 GB hard drive that previously had Windows 98. After running Fdisk to create three 2 GB partitions and make one bootable, I ran Format, but it gave the error message: - Boot sector contents implausible, disk not yet FAT formatted Win98? Default BPB *FAT1x* 1024 sectors\FAT, 512 root size, FAT32 Forced. Access Denied! LOCK problem? Aborting. [Error 55] - In previous cases, I have been able to format disks in similar circumstances by: - Running CPB0.COM (Clear Pre Boot v. 1.00 [06-88] - by DeLima.) - In TestDisk, doing the following: * Delete all data in the partition table * Clear MBR partition table by writing zero bytes to it * Change partition type from type 06 (Fat16) to 0e (Fat16 LBA) This time, however, none of this worked. Help would be appreciated. Marcos Marcos Favero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil fav...@mpcnet.com.br -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Formatting 6 MB hard disk in FAT16
Sorry, in precious message should have sais FORMAT C: /S /U /S is to copy the system (freedos) /U is unconditional, it will test all and take a lng time alain Em 12-05-2010 23:23, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros escreveu: Hi, I'm trying to reformat for FreeDOS a 6 GB hard drive that previously had Windows 98. After running Fdisk to create three 2 GB partitions and make one bootable, I ran Format, but it gave the error message: - Boot sector contents implausible, disk not yet FAT formatted Win98? Default BPB *FAT1x* 1024 sectors\FAT, 512 root size, FAT32 Forced. Access Denied! LOCK problem? Aborting. [Error 55] - In previous cases, I have been able to format disks in similar circumstances by: - Running CPB0.COM (Clear Pre Boot v. 1.00 [06-88] - by DeLima.) - In TestDisk, doing the following: * Delete all data in the partition table * Clear MBR partition table by writing zero bytes to it * Change partition type from type 06 (Fat16) to 0e (Fat16 LBA) This time, however, none of this worked. Help would be appreciated. Marcos Marcos Favero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil fav...@mpcnet.com.br -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
