Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Saluton Ivan, Saluton Rughulo, kaj eble ech aliaj? Mi ne konsciis, ke estas tiom da esperanto-parolantoj kiuj ankorau okupighas pri la DOS operacisistemo :-) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) My only hesitation for E-o is that I'm a bit rusty (I'm no professional, by far). I'm not fluent in it, either. […] So a very rough translation of the latest FreeDOS blurb on the main page that Jim mentions ... FreeDOS estas senkosta/libera DOS-kopia masxinestro kio estas uzebla tiel: aux por ludi, aux por havi pra-masxinojn, aux por subteni malgrandajn masxinetojn. FreeDOS estas plejparte simila al maljuna MS-DOS sed pli bona! Ekzemple, malgraux MS-DOS, FreeDOS permesas FAT32 formon kaj uzadon de granda registrila metodo (LBA). Actually, my point was that I need the note in Russian, but if someone could write it in English or Esperanto, I could translate it myself. Anyway, the Esperanto variant above seems quite readable (though I feel that a few fine points were lost in translation.) […] -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org writes: […] I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) Well, you can feel free to borrow text from our web page: FreeDOS is a free DOS-compatible operating system that can be used to play games, run legacy software, or support embedded systems. FreeDOS is basically like the old MS-DOS, but better! For example, unlike MS-DOS, FreeDOS lets you access FAT32 file systems and use large disk support (LBA). I'll happily re-use this as the basis for a version of such a note (though I'd like to expand it a bit, and perhaps replace “like the old MS-DOS” with “like the older PC DOS systems”, avoiding an arguably unnecessary reference to non-free software), but I'd like to distribute the result under a free license (such as, e. g., CC BY-SA), so that our flyers will by themselves be free works. This makes me ask: am I permitted to do so? (The GNU project is notable for their use of licenses like CC BY-ND, which disallow the creation of derivative works, while we, obviously, need our flyers in Russian, which, indeed, means that we have to create derivative works, or to avoid any use of the material from their Web pages whatsoever.) -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Well, you can feel free to borrow text from our web page: FreeDOS is a free DOS-compatible operating system that can be used to play games, run legacy software, or support embedded systems. FreeDOS is basically like the old MS-DOS, but better! For example, unlike MS-DOS, FreeDOS lets you access FAT32 file systems and use large disk support (LBA). I'll happily re-use this as the basis for a version of such a note (though I'd like to expand it a bit, and perhaps replace “like the old MS-DOS” with “like the older PC DOS systems”, avoiding an arguably unnecessary reference to non-free software), but I'd like to distribute the result under a free license (such as, e. g., CC BY-SA), so that our flyers will by themselves be free works. This makes me ask: am I permitted to do so? (The GNU project is notable for their use of licenses like CC BY-ND, which disallow the creation of derivative works, while we, obviously, need our flyers in Russian, which, indeed, means that we have to create derivative works, or to avoid any use of the material from their Web pages whatsoever.) I wrote the web page content I quoted, so I think I'm safe in giving permission here. You can use this under CC Attribution (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/) the same as our images on http://www.freedos.org/images/ Attribution for the text can be www.freedos.org. -jh -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org writes: (The GNU project is notable for their use of licenses like CC BY-ND, (… for their Web pages…) which disallow the creation of derivative works, while we, obviously, need our flyers in Russian, which, indeed, means that we have to create derivative works, or to avoid any use of the material from their Web pages whatsoever.) I wrote the web page content I quoted, so I think I'm safe in giving permission here. You can use this under CC Attribution (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/) the same as our images on http://www.freedos.org/images/ Attribution for the text can be www.freedos.org. ACK, thanks! We're somewhat limited in paper space (the flyers are to be printed on A6 sheets), so the attribution is likely to end up being typeset in fine print. Still, it will be prominently stated in the LaTeX source [1] for the flyers. [1] http://styldeks.am-1.org/~ivan/archives/git/gitweb.cgi?p=sfd-flyers-2012.git -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
ACK, thanks. I'd try to collect whatever free software-related free logos I'd be able to find on the Web, and print them on stickers to be given away at the event. Also, we've decided [1] to populate the reverse sides of our “Join us on SFD-2012!” flyers with short notes on various free software packages, like (translation from Russian is mine): VLC Multipurpose free video player, with distinguishing features being the support of a multitude of formats, the independence of third-party codecs, the ability to work with stream video (including webcams), and also the ability to work with different playback libraries (such as FFmpeg.) Has numerous and various configuration parameters, but has an intuitive user interface at the same time. I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) Well, you can feel free to borrow text from our web page: FreeDOS is a free DOS-compatible operating system that can be used to play games, run legacy software, or support embedded systems. FreeDOS is basically like the old MS-DOS, but better! For example, unlike MS-DOS, FreeDOS lets you access FAT32 file systems and use large disk support (LBA). jh -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Hi, On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Ivan Shmakov oneing...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) My only hesitation for E-o is that I'm a bit rusty (I'm no professional, by far). Worse is that technical terms are usually neologisms, not UV (from Fundamento), so I feel uncomfortable with some of the ad hoc inventions people use for such terms. http://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org/fundamento/index.html Anyways, a quick search for senkosta and libera and FreeDOS shows this: http://getgnulinux.org/eo/linux/linux_faq/ Ĉu GNU/Linukso estas la nura libera operaciumo havebla? Ne. GNU/Linukso estas la plej usata senpaga sistemo; sed aliaj sistemoj ekzistas. Tioj inkludas la UNIX-versiojn FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD kaj OpenSolaris, la BeOS-klono Haiku OS, la Windows NT-klono ReactOS, la DOS-klono FreeDOS, Plan 9 de Bell Labs kaj Syllable, nombrante nur kelkajn. So a very rough translation of the latest FreeDOS blurb on the main page that Jim mentions ... FreeDOS estas senkosta/libera DOS-kopia masxinestro kio estas uzebla tiel: aux por ludi, aux por havi pra-masxinojn, aux por subteni malgrandajn masxinetojn. FreeDOS estas plejparte simila al maljuna MS-DOS sed pli bona! Ekzemple, malgraux MS-DOS, FreeDOS permesas FAT32 formon kaj uzadon de granda registrila metodo (LBA). You could probably dredge up some people from various online translation projects for better help, but I've never contacted them, so I have no idea. But take what they say with a grain of salt! ;-) http://translationproject.org/team/eo.html -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user