Hello Freedos! a glad for you propose, i am was go on your site not very allways, i very interest DOS and want to have firstely version of DOS in best ragards savvidi -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 05:01:11 -0700 Subject: Freedos-user Digest, Vol 84, Issue 1
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Re: Installed Freedos at home (HalАsz SАndor Viktor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:14:53 +0200 > From: "Florian Xaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Running Free DOS on the OLPC XO > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I would buy a OLPC XO if it would support FreeDOS... ;-)) > > Bye > Flo > > 2008/5/17 Steve Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Greetings all- > > > > I was wondering if there were any interest in seeing Free DOS running > > on the OLPC XO? > > > > For background, the OLPC has under development a version of Open > > Firmware which will support the legacy INITS Windows requires to run. > > I'd like to be sure these features are useful for something more than > > just their intended purpose, and also to be sure the complete set is > > properly implemented. > > > > The OLPC XO seems much more suited to running DOS-type applications > > and this seems like it could be a good fit. > > > > Forgive me for being new, but I really know rather little about the > > technical requirements, but this seems like a perfect time to learn. > > > > Is there any interest among list subscribers in something like this? > > > > And, of course, are there aspects of this (good or bad) I haven't grasped? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > Steve Holton > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > > > > > -- > Passts auf, seits vuasichtig & losst eich nix gfoin! (Kurt Ostbahn) > http://www.drdos.org - http://www.flox.at.tf > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:17:38 +0200 (MEST) > From: Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dos extender : Read Old AT interface disk > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Hi Richard, > > not sure whether a dos extender with 4gb flat memory segments > is useful... I mean there already are dpmione and hdpmi which > have quite some punch and even dos32a and cwsdpmi are not bad. > > About your 386/AT disk - good old AT probably is still the same > as (parallel) ATA / IDE today, so as long as you can find out > the correct geometry (maybe printed on some label on the disk?) > a modern computer should be able to access the disk... > > You should check the thread with Roberto Waldteufel in the list > archive, around April 2005: Roberto could use 2 GB with cwsdpmi > and 3.24 GB with dpmione. The rest was probably reserved RAM for > things like framebuffers, other MMIO, BIOS and ACPI, hibernate? > > Eric > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:17:16 -0400 > From: "Steve Holton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Running Free DOS on the OLPC XO > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would buy a OLPC XO if it would support FreeDOS... ;-)) > > I hate it when people say that.... ;-) > > I'm not going to sell you mine, but once the DOS support is into a > released firmware load, I'll definitely post a note here to let people > know. > > You should buy one off of eBay now, before the new demand pushes the > price sky high. ;-) > > -- > Steve Holton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:42:13 -0500 > From: "Jim Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] grub4dos [advertisement] > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi. I just grabbed the latest version of Grub4dos to look at it. You > need to distribute source code for this, at the same time you release > the binary. You acknowledge that Grub4dos is a fork of Grub, so must > follow the GNU GPL. But you do not abide by it here. > > Section 3 of the GNU GPL (see "COPYING" in your grub4dos-0.4.3.zip file) says: > > >>>>>> > 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, > under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of > Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following: > > a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable > source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections > 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, > > b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three > years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your > cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete > machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be > distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium > customarily used for software interchange; or, > > c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer > to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is > allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you > received the program in object code or executable form with such > an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.) > <<<<<< > > > In your grub4dos-0.4.3.zip file, there is no source code. But there is > a Get_Source_of_This_Build.txt file that says you can get the source > code through SVN at gna.org. This does not meet 3a or 3b. You need to > include the sources, either inside the grub4dos-0.4.3.zip file or as a > grub4dos-src-0.4.3.zip file. > > -jh > > > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Michael Reichenbach > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eric asked me to post some advertisements for grub4dos. > > > > If you are interested in multi booting I bet you know gnu grub 1.x, also > > known as grub legacy. Grub legacy will be no longer developed by the gnu > > grub project. Them are now working on grub2 and they have their reasons. > > > > grub4dos is a fork of grub 1.x legacy. Sure it must follow also GPL. It > > has some exclusive features: > > - it has all features grub also has (example: chainloading other mbr is > > possible) > > - chainloading syslinux/isolinux/memdisk (grub features) > > - booting any linxu/bsd/or w/e (grub features) > > - floppyimage to floppy emulation! > > - iso to virtual CD-ROM emulation! > > - it can initialize a real CD-ROM and boot it (useful for example in > > case your BIOS does not support booting from CD-ROM; also useful if you > > just booted and decided to boot now from CD-ROM) > > - it can chainload an FreeDOS, DR-DOS, MS-DOS... kernel.sys directly > > - it can also chainload Win9x and WinNT directly > > - you can start grub4dos from within DOS (just after start or when > > unloaded incompatible TSR`s) > > - grub4dos can be also started from within NT bootloader > > - when started it removes the old operating system (such as FreeDOS) > > from the memory can start a new one > > - sure grub4dos can be also direclty booted (not only thought DOS or NT > > or Linux) > > - just like for grub it`s no problem for grub to boot from floppy, > > CD-ROM or USB (if the BIOS does support booting these devices) > > > > Note: > > Floppy / Iso Emulation works well with most 16 bit operating systems > > such as FreeDOS. Some 32 bit operating systems (such as Windows XP or > > Puppy Linux) don`t like this. You can not download a Puppy Linux > > bootable iso, store it on your harddisk, emulate it with grub4dos and > > use it. However, it`s bootable. But after the 32 bit operating system > > uses it`s own controller driver it will crash because it loses > > connection to the virtual device. > > > > - The manual can be found here: > > http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > - An English forum: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showforum=66 > > > > Any questions can be asked in the forums or on their mailing list. You > > can also try the Chinese forum and a Chinese translator (never tested > > myself). > > > > PS: > > If you want to chainload a bootsector from an USB device and your BIOS > > does not support booting USB directly then you may try PLoP Bootmanager > > (http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html) (freeware, closed source) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:55:44 +0200 > From: Michael Reichenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] grub4dos [advertisement] > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hey Jim! > > Jim Hall schrieb: > > Hi. I just grabbed the latest version of Grub4dos to look at it. You > > need to distribute source code for this, at the same time you release > > the binary. You acknowledge that Grub4dos is a fork of Grub, so must > > follow the GNU GPL. But you do not abide by it here. > > > > Section 3 of the GNU GPL (see "COPYING" in your grub4dos-0.4.3.zip file) > > says: > > > [snip] > > > > Sorry if my posting was a bit confusing so you thought that I am a > grub4dos developer. > > To clarify this: > I am not a grub4dos developer as in 20.05.2008. > I am only satisfied end user and also have no privilege contact with them. > > If you want the grub4dos developers to know that please mail them > directly, use the mailinglist or the chinese forum. > > -mr > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:12:35 -0500 > From: "Jim Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] grub4dos [advertisement] > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > Sorry if my posting was a bit confusing so you thought that I am a > > grub4dos developer. > > > > To clarify this: > > I am not a grub4dos developer as in 20.05.2008. > > I am only satisfied end user and also have no privilege contact with them. > > > > If you want the grub4dos developers to know that please mail them > > directly, use the mailinglist or the chinese forum. > > > > Yes, that was totally unclear to me - I thought you were a developer > for Grub4dos. Thanks for clarifying. > > > -jh > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 22:06:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: Alexandru Fira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Freedos-user] Installed Freedos at home > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I installed Freedos at home, amazingly, without > messing up my PC. I had an NTFS partition (without > Windows) that had to be converted to FAT32 (it took > more than an hour, the rest went smoothly). > Now Ubuntu GRUB loads all the OSes, including > Freedos. It was easy to put programs onto the Freedos > partition from under Ubuntu but I cannot open the > directories that I put there. > Please tell me with what command I can open the > directories. They are just there on the partition. > Running programs is easy, I just type the name of the > program at the command prompt and then press enter. > Please send info about a comprehensive DOS tutorial. > > Alex > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:37:22 +1000 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installed Freedos at home > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi > from memory try : > > mkdir,creates a directory > chdir,moves to a directory > rmdir,deletes a directory > > directory is either dskdrv:\name\...\name or .\name\...\name first is called > absolute reference and > last is called relative reference,then there is . which is current directory. > > to refer to a file append \filename.ext to directory specifier in either form. > > try to see if help command informative > > richard > > > Quoting Alexandru Fira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I installed Freedos at home, amazingly, without > > messing up my PC. I had an NTFS partition (without > > Windows) that had to be converted to FAT32 (it took > > more than an hour, the rest went smoothly). > > Now Ubuntu GRUB loads all the OSes, including > > Freedos. It was easy to put programs onto the Freedos > > partition from under Ubuntu but I cannot open the > > directories that I put there. > > Please tell me with what command I can open the > > directories. They are just there on the partition. > > Running programs is easy, I just type the name of the > > program at the command prompt and then press enter. > > Please send info about a comprehensive DOS tutorial. > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:36:15 -0400 > From: (HalАsz SАndor Viktor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installed Freedos at home > To: Alexandru Fira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >>>> 2008/05/21 17:37 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > mkdir,creates a directory > chdir,moves to a directory > rmdir,deletes a directory > <<<<<<<< > which also abbreviate to "md", "cd", "rd". The last only then is > allowed when the directory is empty--speaking of which, the command > "del" ("erase") deletes a plain file (not a directory). > > There is "dir", with all its options, it takes absolute & relativ > references wherof rfryer wrote for showing directory contents. In an > older DOS, one did "help" at the command line: "help dir" or by itself. > Later all the commands were eked with the switch "?": "dir /?". > I do not know what was implemented in FreeDOS. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. 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