Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Bret Johnson]

Seeing as how you've referred to "chapters", it sounds like you're making 
contributions to a book or dissertation or script or some sort of larger 
document.  I'd be wary of using a text editor instead of a word processor -- 
they are two very different things.

A text editor is really designed for editing things like batch files and source 
code for programs.  Even a "fancy" text editor with features like the ability 
to open multiple files at the same time or handling really large files doesn't 
turn it into a word processor.  At least from a simplistic perspective, the 
main thing that separates a text editor from a word processor is that a word 
processor understands what sentences and paragraphs are while a text editor 
only understands lines (rows) and columns.  What a word processor brings to the 
table compared to a text editor is much more than a spell-checker.  You CAN use 
a text editor to create a document with sentences and paragraphs, but it's very 
cumbersome.

A word processor understands what sentences and paragraphs are, and if your 
ultimate goal is to create a document a word processor is much less frustrating 
to use than a text editor.  Similarly, if your ultimate goal is to create the 
source code for a program, a word processor is much more frustrating to use 
than a text editor (though it can be done).

If you're only doing small tasks, you can use either tool and "suffer through" 
the shortcomings associated with using the wrong tool for the job.  For larger 
projects, though, you should really use the correct tool, even if only for your 
own sanity.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Travis Siegel]

If you need IDE drives, I have stacks of them, (one of the things I was 
able to rescue during our recent forced move). They're all different 
sizes, but I'd be willing to send you a box of them for the cost of 
shipping if you want them, since I no longer have any machines that can 
use them, (those were lost in the move).



On 3/31/2022 8:16 AM, John Vella wrote:
It's a 486 dx 33, and I will have a look at that link when I get home, 
thanks!


I'm not sure if I still have it, but I used to have an ide hard drive 
caddy buried somewhere. I might see if I can dig that out, as I have a 
few ide drives lying around.


On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 12:35 Björn Morell,  wrote:

Hi John

Fun with someone using a real machine, I am using an IBM 100DX4
running, Freedos, DrDos and DSL (Damn Small Linux) all on three
compact flash drives.

I would try File Wizard and its internal editor,

https://dos.retro.software/downloads/download/290-file-managers/1467-file-wizard-1-35,
like using Norton commander but better.

What kind of 486 do you run ?

Bear


Den 2022-03-31 kl. 12:49, skrev John Vella:

I am using edit at the moment,so it might be safer to stick with
that. By safer, I mean not installing windows, which also
contains too many distractions!

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:43 Joao Silva,  wrote:

If you go to WIndows 3.1 you have write.

If you want to stick to dos get edit.com 
from DOS, i'm using it and works just fine.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:37 AM John Vella
 wrote:

Ooh, that's good to know. I'll have to check how many
lines per chapter.

I'm also tempted to dig out another old drive, install
windows 3.11 and try Microsoft Office 4.3 as I've never
used that before.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:33 Joao Silva,
 wrote:

Hi!

You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big
files... can't handle 2968 lines

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella
 wrote:

I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second
guess myself here... Reading a totally unrelated
email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm
even bothering with wordperfect. I only need a
basic text editor. I'm not interested in spell
check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and
whatever text editor is included would actually
do the job nicely.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch,
 wrote:

Hi John,

> So, I've got the 486 computer working and
am ready to install freedos
> and wordperfect.

What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
Probably just the BASE packages.
Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.

You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy
images:
http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314


SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is
currently still from FD 1.2,
IIRC.

Cheers,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Joao Silva]

True

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:51 AM John Vella  wrote:

> I am using edit at the moment,so it might be safer to stick with that. By
> safer, I mean not installing windows, which also contains too many
> distractions!
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:43 Joao Silva,  wrote:
>
>> If you go to WIndows 3.1 you have write.
>>
>> If you want to stick to dos get edit.com from DOS, i'm using it and
>> works just fine.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:37 AM John Vella  wrote:
>>
>>> Ooh, that's good to know. I'll have to check how many lines per chapter.
>>>
>>> I'm also tempted to dig out another old drive, install windows 3.11 and
>>> try Microsoft Office 4.3 as I've never used that before.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:33 Joao Silva,  wrote:
>>>
 Hi!

 You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big files... can't handle
 2968 lines

 On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella 
 wrote:

> I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here...
> Reading a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm
> even bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not
> interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
> bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is
> included would actually do the job nicely.
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> > So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install
>> freedos
>> > and wordperfect.
>>
>> What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
>> Probably just the BASE packages.
>> Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.
>>
>> You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
>> http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314
>>
>> SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is currently still from FD
>> 1.2,
>> IIRC.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Robert
>> --
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[John Vella]

It's a 486 dx 33, and I will have a look at that link when I get home,
thanks!

I'm not sure if I still have it, but I used to have an ide hard drive caddy
buried somewhere. I might see if I can dig that out, as I have a few ide
drives lying around.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 12:35 Björn Morell,  wrote:

> Hi John
>
> Fun with someone using a real machine, I am using an IBM 100DX4 running,
> Freedos, DrDos and DSL (Damn Small Linux) all on three compact flash
> drives.
>
> I would try File Wizard and its internal editor,
> https://dos.retro.software/downloads/download/290-file-managers/1467-file-wizard-1-35,
> like using Norton commander but better.
>
> What kind of 486 do you run ?
>
> Bear
>
>
> Den 2022-03-31 kl. 12:49, skrev John Vella:
>
> I am using edit at the moment,so it might be safer to stick with that. By
> safer, I mean not installing windows, which also contains too many
> distractions!
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:43 Joao Silva,  wrote:
>
>> If you go to WIndows 3.1 you have write.
>>
>> If you want to stick to dos get edit.com from DOS, i'm using it and
>> works just fine.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:37 AM John Vella  wrote:
>>
>>> Ooh, that's good to know. I'll have to check how many lines per chapter.
>>>
>>> I'm also tempted to dig out another old drive, install windows 3.11 and
>>> try Microsoft Office 4.3 as I've never used that before.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:33 Joao Silva,  wrote:
>>>
 Hi!

 You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big files... can't handle
 2968 lines

 On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella 
 wrote:

> I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here...
> Reading a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm
> even bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not
> interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
> bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is
> included would actually do the job nicely.
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> > So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install
>> freedos
>> > and wordperfect.
>>
>> What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
>> Probably just the BASE packages.
>> Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.
>>
>> You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
>> http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314
>>
>> SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is currently still from FD
>> 1.2,
>> IIRC.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Robert
>> --
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Björn Morell]

Hi John

Fun with someone using a real machine, I am using an IBM 100DX4 running, 
Freedos, DrDos and DSL (Damn Small Linux) all on three compact flash 
drives.


I would try File Wizard and its internal editor, 
https://dos.retro.software/downloads/download/290-file-managers/1467-file-wizard-1-35, 
like using Norton commander but better.


What kind of 486 do you run ?

Bear


Den 2022-03-31 kl. 12:49, skrev John Vella:
I am using edit at the moment,so it might be safer to stick with that. 
By safer, I mean not installing windows, which also contains too many 
distractions!


On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:43 Joao Silva,  wrote:

If you go to WIndows 3.1 you have write.

If you want to stick to dos get edit.com  from
DOS, i'm using it and works just fine.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:37 AM John Vella 
wrote:

Ooh, that's good to know. I'll have to check how many lines
per chapter.

I'm also tempted to dig out another old drive, install windows
3.11 and try Microsoft Office 4.3 as I've never used that before.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:33 Joao Silva,  wrote:

Hi!

You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big files...
can't handle 2968 lines

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella
 wrote:

I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess
myself here... Reading a totally unrelated email at
work this morning, I wondered why I'm even bothering
with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm
not interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the
editing machine, so bringing it down to the minimum,
freedos and whatever text editor is included would
actually do the job nicely.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch,
 wrote:

Hi John,

> So, I've got the 486 computer working and am
ready to install freedos
> and wordperfect.

What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
Probably just the BASE packages.
Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.

You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314


SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is
currently still from FD 1.2,
IIRC.

Cheers,
Robert
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[John Vella]

I am using edit at the moment,so it might be safer to stick with that. By
safer, I mean not installing windows, which also contains too many
distractions!

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:43 Joao Silva,  wrote:

> If you go to WIndows 3.1 you have write.
>
> If you want to stick to dos get edit.com from DOS, i'm using it and works
> just fine.
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:37 AM John Vella  wrote:
>
>> Ooh, that's good to know. I'll have to check how many lines per chapter.
>>
>> I'm also tempted to dig out another old drive, install windows 3.11 and
>> try Microsoft Office 4.3 as I've never used that before.
>>
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:33 Joao Silva,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big files... can't handle
>>> 2968 lines
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here...
 Reading a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm
 even bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not
 interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
 bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is
 included would actually do the job nicely.

 On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch, 
 wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> > So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos
> > and wordperfect.
>
> What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
> Probably just the BASE packages.
> Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.
>
> You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
> http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314
>
> SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is currently still from FD 1.2,
> IIRC.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert
> --
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Joao Silva]

If you go to WIndows 3.1 you have write.

If you want to stick to dos get edit.com from DOS, i'm using it and works
just fine.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:37 AM John Vella  wrote:

> Ooh, that's good to know. I'll have to check how many lines per chapter.
>
> I'm also tempted to dig out another old drive, install windows 3.11 and
> try Microsoft Office 4.3 as I've never used that before.
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:33 Joao Silva,  wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big files... can't handle
>> 2968 lines
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella  wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here...
>>> Reading a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm
>>> even bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not
>>> interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
>>> bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is
>>> included would actually do the job nicely.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch,  wrote:
>>>
 Hi John,

 > So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos
 > and wordperfect.

 What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
 Probably just the BASE packages.
 Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.

 You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
 http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314

 SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is currently still from FD 1.2,
 IIRC.

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[John Vella]

Ooh, that's good to know. I'll have to check how many lines per chapter.

I'm also tempted to dig out another old drive, install windows 3.11 and try
Microsoft Office 4.3 as I've never used that before.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 11:33 Joao Silva,  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big files... can't handle 2968
> lines
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella  wrote:
>
>> I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here...
>> Reading a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm
>> even bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not
>> interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
>> bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is
>> included would actually do the job nicely.
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> > So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos
>>> > and wordperfect.
>>>
>>> What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
>>> Probably just the BASE packages.
>>> Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.
>>>
>>> You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
>>> http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314
>>>
>>> SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is currently still from FD 1.2,
>>> IIRC.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Robert
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Joao Silva]

Hi!

You can use FreeDOS edit, but don't use for big files... can't handle 2968
lines

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM John Vella  wrote:

> I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here... Reading
> a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm even
> bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not
> interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
> bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is
> included would actually do the job nicely.
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch,  wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> > So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos
>> > and wordperfect.
>>
>> What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
>> Probably just the BASE packages.
>> Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.
>>
>> You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
>> http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314
>>
>> SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is currently still from FD 1.2,
>> IIRC.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Robert
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Björn Morell]

My fav is the internal editor in File Wizard :)

Den 2022-03-30 kl. 18:35, skrev Louis Santillan:

FreeDOS Edit, SETEdit, vi, pico.  All great basic DoS text editors.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 4:59 AM John Vella  wrote:

I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here...
Reading a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered
why I'm even bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text
editor. I'm not interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the
editing machine, so bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and
whatever text editor is included would actually do the job nicely.





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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Louis Santillan]

FreeDOS Edit, SETEdit, vi, pico.  All great basic DoS text editors.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 4:59 AM John Vella  wrote:

> I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here... Reading
> a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm even
> bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not
> interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
> bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is
> included would actually do the job nicely.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Liam Proven]

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 13:59, John Vella  wrote:
>
> I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here... Reading a 
> totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm even 
> bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not 
> interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so 
> bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is included 
> would actually do the job nicely.

Depends what you need, what keystrokes you like, etc.

I find WordPerfect 6.1 for DOS on a modern machine is quite fun to
use. In its day it was considered bloated and sluggish, but on a Core
2 Duo it's blisteringly fast. :-)

I personally happen to _like_ MS Word and I have that on some machines
and in DOSemu. It too is very very quick on modern-ish (21st century)
hardware.

If you like the WordPerfect keystrokes and UI (which personally I do
not) then the WordPerfect Editor is freeware. It does only plain text
but it's even lighter and quicker than the full app.

https://clasqm.github.io/freedos-repo/Productivity.html

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[John Vella]

I'll be honest and say I'm starting to second guess myself here... Reading
a totally unrelated email at work this morning, I wondered why I'm even
bothering with wordperfect. I only need a basic text editor. I'm not
interested in spell check, as I'll do that on the editing machine, so
bringing it down to the minimum, freedos and whatever text editor is
included would actually do the job nicely.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, 12:42 Robert Riebisch,  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> > So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos
> > and wordperfect.
>
> What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
> Probably just the BASE packages.
> Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.
>
> You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
> http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314
>
> SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is currently still from FD 1.2,
> IIRC.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[Robert Riebisch]

Hi John,

> So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos
> and wordperfect.

What do *you* really need from FreeDOS to run WP?
Probably just the BASE packages.
Or maybe the kernel + FreeCOM only.

You may also want to look at SvarDOS' floppy images:
http://www.svardos.org/?p=files=20220314

SvarDOS is based on FreeDOS, but kernel is currently still from FD 1.2,
IIRC.

Cheers,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[John Vella]

The host machine will be more than capable, as I have installed virtual
freedos on this in the past. It's a 9th gen core i7 with 32gb, (I nearly
typed 32mb!) off ram but now I've had a chance to think about it I'll
probably just do the floppy install, purely because disk swapping is fun!

I'll end this by saying I also got a surprise when the machine started
working as I was convinced it had 4Mb of ram but it turns out that it's got
8 meg!



On Tue, 29 Mar 2022, 23:00 dmccunney,  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 2:40 PM John Vella  wrote:
>
> > So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos
> and wordperfect.
> >
> > I'm thinking there are a couple of advantages to installing onto a
> virtualbox machine, then formatting the physical hard drive and copying the
> contents over.
> >
> > It would be a lot quicker to install and I'd have a clean image if I
> ever need to reinstall.
>
> What machine will VirtualBox be running on?  If your VirtualBox host
> machine can run it acceptably, you *may* have a plan.
>
> Getting FreeDOS working in VirtualBox can be non-trivial. Jim Hall and
> others here can provide pointers
>
> > Is there an obvious flaw to my plan?
>
> If your main intent is a quicker install, it's likely to be faster to
> just install FreeDOS and WP on the 486 on the bare metal instead of
> creating an image in VirtualBox.  (It will take the same time to do it
> in VirtualBox, with the added overhead of getting it to run in
> VirtualBox in the first place.)
>
> In the old days, when you got a new machine, you booted DOS from
> floppy, formatted the HD from DOS with format /s (which copied the DOS
> system files to the HD,)then removed the floppy, rebooted from the HD,
> and carried on.
>
> That is likely still your best option.
>
> Personally, were I to install FreeDOS in VirtualBox or another virtual
> machine, I'd do it because I wanted a full working FreeDOS
> installation, and I didn't *have* an Old Skool machine to do a bare
> metal install on.
>
> > John.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

[dmccunney]

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 2:40 PM John Vella  wrote:

> So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos and 
> wordperfect.
>
> I'm thinking there are a couple of advantages to installing onto a virtualbox 
> machine, then formatting the physical hard drive and copying the contents 
> over.
>
> It would be a lot quicker to install and I'd have a clean image if I ever 
> need to reinstall.

What machine will VirtualBox be running on?  If your VirtualBox host
machine can run it acceptably, you *may* have a plan.

Getting FreeDOS working in VirtualBox can be non-trivial. Jim Hall and
others here can provide pointers

> Is there an obvious flaw to my plan?

If your main intent is a quicker install, it's likely to be faster to
just install FreeDOS and WP on the 486 on the bare metal instead of
creating an image in VirtualBox.  (It will take the same time to do it
in VirtualBox, with the added overhead of getting it to run in
VirtualBox in the first place.)

In the old days, when you got a new machine, you booted DOS from
floppy, formatted the HD from DOS with format /s (which copied the DOS
system files to the HD,)then removed the floppy, rebooted from the HD,
and carried on.

That is likely still your best option.

Personally, were I to install FreeDOS in VirtualBox or another virtual
machine, I'd do it because I wanted a full working FreeDOS
installation, and I didn't *have* an Old Skool machine to do a bare
metal install on.

> John.
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