Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Georg Potthast mail...@georgpotthast.de wrote: I got my brand new Samsung Tablet about three months ago. I bought a small USB hub and connected a mouse, flash disk and keyboard to that and could use them all with my XFDOS distro. I have a generic 7 Android tablet. It doesn't have Bluetooth, so an external keyboard must be USB. A USB-microUSB converter lets me plug in my Logitech portable keyboard and it works fine. Add a hub and I can use keyboard and mouse. Add a powered hub and I can connect my Seagate USB HD, via a freeware third party driver using NTFS3g that lets Android mount and read the NTFS file system. (The Android device must be rooted, but mine is.) The powered hub is required to support the HD - the tablet can't do it unaided. I can run a few old DOS apps on the tablet via an Android port of DOSBox. This is mostly proof of concept. My need to do it in practice is nil. But frankly I rather use my desktop PC instead. Under most circumstances, so do I. The Android tablet is primarily an eBook viewer, but in a pinch it can substitute for a laptop in a much smaller and lighter form factor. Lighter is good. Smaller can be a problem, as a lot of what I do really wants a larger screen. The 23 monitor on my desktop is about right. Georg __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
Hi, On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Georg Potthast mail...@georgpotthast.de wrote: So if you made software for DOS you do not want to abandon you could make a Win8 version with DOS4WIN64. Someone (not me!) has taken it upon themselves to make various emulator images for what they call QEMU Advent Calendar. http://www.qemu-advent-calendar.org/ At least two images are loosely (Free)DOS-related: Day 13 (Second Reality) and Day 2 (Modern DOS). However, neither of them is what they appear. The former is just an old PC demo, and the latter is just some old freeware games. So it has nothing to do with any of our work, AFAIK. (I mean specifically that they aren't based upon XFDOS or MetaDOS, but yes, the latter claims to have stuff from FD 1.1.) Not that I really know because they (apparently) insist on using QCOW2 images, which I can't seem to get working in these (admittedly old) QEMU .EXEs for Windows I have here. I probably need to begrudgingly install the newer builds that Bernd pointed to (or just test on Linux, which is obviously a bigger priority for them). -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
DOS4WIN64 is not intended to run on old PCs. I just try to keep packages small to allow for fast downloads and fast program loads. There is a lot of DOS software that will not run on Windows 7 or 8 in 64bit mode. To allow DOS applications to be used on these systems they can be bundled with DOS4WIN64 and started from the disk like any other application on a Windows 7 or 8 system. No need to install DOSBOX or VMWare first. Or to burn a Live CD and boot from that. Just copy the DOS4WIN64 archive files into a directory and start the batch file to run DOS and the DOS application from there. So if you made software for DOS you do not want to abandon you could make a Win8 version with DOS4WIN64. You could also make a version of this package for Linux and OS X thus making the DOS application cross platform ;-) Using Linux you can even run your application on Non-Intel processors. I got DOS working on my Android Tablet with ARM processor this way. Plugged in a USB keyboard for that. Georg -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
Georg Potthast schreef op 7-12-2014 om 12:51: Without my included XFDOS ISO image this package is just about 5 MB in size. So if you have a DOS application that you want to make available for Windows 7 or 8 in 64 bit mode you could add this to the MetaDOS image in this package and allow your users to run it on Windows 7 or 8 without installing any additional emulation packages. If there is a FAT disk available, this can be accessed directly from MetaDOS if configured. http://qemu.weilnetz.de/ contains more recent binaries for QEMU for Windows, but the syntax for specifying files and options might be different. If only they had binaries that were 8.3-compliant and allowed read-only environment (no temp files, log files, etc) you could add QEMU/Bochs to CD with FreeDOS. For bochs, specifying an ISO that loads a writeable harddisk image works. Specifying a harddisk image doesn't work as you can't indicate read-only harddisk, only CD and floppy. Thanks for making this available Georg. Bernd -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
I will use later versions of Qemu in the next release. However, I would like to use binaries that use SDL instead of GTK because I think these require less disk space. Qemu is faster than Bochs if you run it on the processor it is currently emulating. It will then use the real processor to some extend. Qemu supports read-only in some disk configurations. When accessing the FAT32 hard disk on my Windows XP system I could see the file names as 8.3 names using the tilde. Georg -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Georg Potthast mail...@georgpotthast.de wrote: I will use later versions of Qemu in the next release. However, I would like to use binaries that use SDL instead of GTK because I think these require less disk space. Given the size and cost of current drives, how much does anyone actually *care* about the disk space requirements? Georg __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
Some of us are hobbyists trying to make 20th century computers function. bs On Sun, 12/7/14, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, December 7, 2014, 2:32 PM On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Georg Potthast mail...@georgpotthast.de wrote: I will use later versions of Qemu in the next release. However, I would like to use binaries that use SDL instead of GTK because I think these require less disk space. Given the size and cost of current drives, how much does anyone actually *care* about the disk space requirements? Georg __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Bob Schwier schwepes2...@yahoo.com wrote: Some of us are hobbyists trying to make 20th century computers function. If you have the hardware to run a QEMU environment, disk space is unlikely to be a huge concern. If it *is* a concern, you may not be able to run QEMU. bs __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
