Re: [Freedos-user] Update wiki info on installing ftp on a virualbox guest?
If your goal is to be able to share files between a FreeDOS guest VM and a host system, you could use VBSF.EXE as an alternative. It's a guest driver for DOS that allows you to mount a VirtualBox shared folder without having to set up a TCP/IP stack and an FTP server. I've only briefly used it so far, but it seems quite stable. Javispedro, the author of this software, has also been developing other cool VirtualBox-related software for DOS and Windows 3.x. You might want to check it out. See https://git.javispedro.com/cgit/vbados.git/about/ Maybe it's worth considering including some of these tools in the FreeDOS distribution? On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:14 PM Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:06 AM wrote: > > > > > On Mar 15, 2023, at 10:22 PM, Michael Brutman > wrote: > > > [..] > > > The only questionable thing I noticed was somebody converted the user > documentation to a 293KB text file. That strips the formatting, diagrams > and screen shots that I have in the PDF. Can we not do that in the > future? Nobody is going to want to wade through a 293KB text file. > > > > I don’t recall the origin of the text version. It is also regarding the > 2015-07-05 release and most likely contains outdated information. I will > delete it from the GitLab Archive and it won’t be in any future interim > builds or OS releases. > > > > I do recall that it was included because PDF documents are not easily > viewed under DOS. I don’t think we even provide a PDF viewer at present. We > do provide a couple web browsers. I hope you will consider providing an > additional version of the documentation in HTML format with future versions. > > Yes, that much is pretty obvious. DOS and "portable" document formats > (PDF) do not mix well. > > Although we do have older Ghostscript builds (of varying quality, not > all equal in features). RayeR never did publicly finalize his MuPDF > (gfx) build. My cross-build of MuTool is old but kinda works (IIRC). > Georg's 2014 FLTK build of MuPDF is still on SourceForge. I guess > someone used the PDFTOTXT.EXE (?) found in FlWriter? Or was it XPDF? > Maybe I'm thinking of PDFTOHTML.EXE? > > I honestly don't recall some of the details. Either way, a text file > as a supplement to a complex PDF could still be useful. But I'm > guessing it's sadly implied that most people also have fancier OSes to > read PDFs from. (I haven't checked lately.) > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Update wiki info on installing ftp on a virualbox guest?
Hi, On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:06 AM wrote: > > > On Mar 15, 2023, at 10:22 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: > > [..] > > The only questionable thing I noticed was somebody converted the user > > documentation to a 293KB text file. That strips the formatting, diagrams > > and screen shots that I have in the PDF. Can we not do that in the future? > > Nobody is going to want to wade through a 293KB text file. > > I don’t recall the origin of the text version. It is also regarding the > 2015-07-05 release and most likely contains outdated information. I will > delete it from the GitLab Archive and it won’t be in any future interim > builds or OS releases. > > I do recall that it was included because PDF documents are not easily viewed > under DOS. I don’t think we even provide a PDF viewer at present. We do > provide a couple web browsers. I hope you will consider providing an > additional version of the documentation in HTML format with future versions. Yes, that much is pretty obvious. DOS and "portable" document formats (PDF) do not mix well. Although we do have older Ghostscript builds (of varying quality, not all equal in features). RayeR never did publicly finalize his MuPDF (gfx) build. My cross-build of MuTool is old but kinda works (IIRC). Georg's 2014 FLTK build of MuPDF is still on SourceForge. I guess someone used the PDFTOTXT.EXE (?) found in FlWriter? Or was it XPDF? Maybe I'm thinking of PDFTOHTML.EXE? I honestly don't recall some of the details. Either way, a text file as a supplement to a complex PDF could still be useful. But I'm guessing it's sadly implied that most people also have fancier OSes to read PDFs from. (I haven't checked lately.) ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Update wiki info on installing ftp on a virualbox guest?
I've got it up and running using the pdf manual on the mtcp homepage. https://www.brutman.com/mTCP/download/mTCP_2022-07-01.pdf Thanks Mike I would still like to see the wiki updated On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 17:33:14 -0500 Jennifer Brice wrote --- > I am trying to install ftp on a virtualbox guest and the wiki seems out of > date. > > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/VirtualBox_-_Chapter_7 > > There is no fdos directory and also no sample.cfg in docs. > > I found an mtcp.cfg in the freedos directory and found samples cfg in > c:\net\mtcp\sample.cfg but when I copied it as c:\freedos\mtcp.cfg, then > edited it, the file was empty. I edited c:\net\mtcp\sample.cfg and it was > empty too. What should I do? > > > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Update wiki info on installing ftp on a virualbox guest?
Hi, > On Mar 15, 2023, at 10:22 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: > [..] > The only questionable thing I noticed was somebody converted the user > documentation to a 293KB text file. That strips the formatting, diagrams and > screen shots that I have in the PDF. Can we not do that in the future? > Nobody is going to want to wade through a 293KB text file. I don’t recall the origin of the text version. It is also regarding the 2015-07-05 release and most likely contains outdated information. I will delete it from the GitLab Archive and it won’t be in any future interim builds or OS releases. I do recall that it was included because PDF documents are not easily viewed under DOS. I don’t think we even provide a PDF viewer at present. We do provide a couple web browsers. I hope you will consider providing an additional version of the documentation in HTML format with future versions. Jerome ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Update wiki info on installing ftp on a virualbox guest?
Jennifer replied offline and responded that she was installing FreeDOS 1.3 using the livecd. I tried it for myself and I installed the full FreeDOS without sources to a new virtual machine. Until the wiki gets fixed look in C:\FREEDOS for the mTCP configuration file. The mTCP sample config file is in C:\NET\MTCP\SAMPLES\SAMPLE.CFG. Both files have the expected contents so I don't know why yours are empty. The only questionable thing I noticed was somebody converted the user documentation to a 293KB text file. That strips the formatting, diagrams and screen shots that I have in the PDF. Can we not do that in the future? Nobody is going to want to wade through a 293KB text file. -Mike On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 5:59 PM Michael Brutman wrote: > What version of FreeDOS are you installing? > > If things are really borked then keep in mind that mTCP is a standalone > project and you can get all the original files at its website. See > http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/mTCP.html for the downloads and PDF > documentation. > > > Mike > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 15:50 Jennifer Brice via Freedos-user < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> I am trying to install ftp on a virtualbox guest and the wiki seems out >> of date. >> >> http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/VirtualBox_-_Chapter_7 >> >> There is no fdos directory and also no sample.cfg in docs. >> >> I found an mtcp.cfg in the freedos directory and found samples cfg in >> c:\net\mtcp\sample.cfg but when I copied it as c:\freedos\mtcp.cfg, then >> edited it, the file was empty. I edited c:\net\mtcp\sample.cfg and it was >> empty too. What should I do? >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Update wiki info on installing ftp on a virualbox guest?
What version of FreeDOS are you installing? If things are really borked then keep in mind that mTCP is a standalone project and you can get all the original files at its website. See http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/mTCP.html for the downloads and PDF documentation. Mike On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 15:50 Jennifer Brice via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I am trying to install ftp on a virtualbox guest and the wiki seems out of > date. > > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/VirtualBox_-_Chapter_7 > > There is no fdos directory and also no sample.cfg in docs. > > I found an mtcp.cfg in the freedos directory and found samples cfg in > c:\net\mtcp\sample.cfg but when I copied it as c:\freedos\mtcp.cfg, then > edited it, the file was empty. I edited c:\net\mtcp\sample.cfg and it was > empty too. What should I do? > > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user