Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design

2007-06-16 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, I don't know if it's just me, but the current font (at  17th of
june) looks a bit strange and harder to read...

Aitor

2007/6/8, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks to all of the Arachne users (especially Udo!) and other web
 testers who helped with the new FreeDOS web design.  The new design
 doesn't differ all that much from the old one, but has a cleaner look.
  More importantly, the new design looks much better under Arachne
 (some differences: Arachne doesn't support absolute positioning of the
 linkList, and doesn't display the background images.)

 I hope you like it.

 -jh

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Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design

2007-06-16 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Oh, it's MSIE6 over WinXP over LCD screen (NO ClearType).

Aitor

2007/6/17, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello, I don't know if it's just me, but the current font (at  17th of
 june) looks a bit strange and harder to read...

 Aitor

 2007/6/8, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Thanks to all of the Arachne users (especially Udo!) and other web
  testers who helped with the new FreeDOS web design.  The new design
  doesn't differ all that much from the old one, but has a cleaner look.
   More importantly, the new design looks much better under Arachne
  (some differences: Arachne doesn't support absolute positioning of the
  linkList, and doesn't display the background images.)
 
  I hope you like it.
 
  -jh
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design

2007-06-08 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Jim,

according to validator.w3.org, the new design is more like
HTML 4.01 than like XHTML. That is okay for me, but then
the header should not refer to XHTML... ;-).


Other errors:

- there is no table bordercolor attribute

- XHTML probably wants x=y syntax for attributes, not x=y?

- do not mix XHTML br / with HTML br

I think if you remove a few / from .../ and if you change
the headers, then your page will make a nice HTML 4.01
transitional. No need to throw XHTML at DOS users now...


One problem with the design:

- the top of the fish has no smooth transparency, so you get
  almost white pixels between the border of the fish and the
  striped background, at least in Mozilla based browsers.

- plus the striped background looks much worse - imho - than
  the previous marble or plain, 1 color backgrounds. You
  also get extra strain for the browser when forcing it to
  tile a tiny image to until you get the selected height and
  the width of the canvas. Suggestion: Make the image high
  enough to let 1 copy be enough, make it 32 pixels wide,
  and do not make it striped ;-).


Thanks for making the web page Arachne friendly :-).

Eric


 Thanks to all of the Arachne users (especially Udo!) and other web
 testers who helped with the new FreeDOS web design.  The new design
 doesn't differ all that much from the old one, but has a cleaner look.
  More importantly, the new design looks much better under Arachne...


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Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design

2007-06-08 Thread Jim Hall
A lot of the errors you mention actually come from the webring nav
stuff, which I have no control over.  If you want to validate, you
need to omit the webring stuff:

http://www.freedos.org/?webring=no

This validates as correct XHTML.

I tried to pick a banner background that wasn't too image-y so that it
would look much the same on Arachne.  And I've been getting some
peopel complaining that they didn't like the marble stone background
pattern, so I felt it was time to change.  At one point, I was looking
to use a gradient of mostly the same color, sort of web 2.0-ish.  I
suppose I could do that instead for the banner background.  Or, I
could let it just be a solid color with no image background.

What do others think?  I have some time today before I leave on my
trip, so if I can get a sense of what people think they'd prefer, I
can see about making the change now.


-jh


On 6/8/07, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 according to validator.w3.org, the new design is more like
 HTML 4.01 than like XHTML. That is okay for me, but then
 the header should not refer to XHTML... ;-).


 Other errors:

 - there is no table bordercolor attribute

 - XHTML probably wants x=y syntax for attributes, not x=y?

 - do not mix XHTML br / with HTML br

 I think if you remove a few / from .../ and if you change
 the headers, then your page will make a nice HTML 4.01
 transitional. No need to throw XHTML at DOS users now...


 One problem with the design:

 - the top of the fish has no smooth transparency, so you get
   almost white pixels between the border of the fish and the
   striped background, at least in Mozilla based browsers.

 - plus the striped background looks much worse - imho - than
   the previous marble or plain, 1 color backgrounds. You
   also get extra strain for the browser when forcing it to
   tile a tiny image to until you get the selected height and
   the width of the canvas. Suggestion: Make the image high
   enough to let 1 copy be enough, make it 32 pixels wide,
   and do not make it striped ;-).


 Thanks for making the web page Arachne friendly :-).

 Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design

2007-06-08 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Jim,

 http://www.freedos.org/?webring=no
 This validates as correct XHTML.

Cool. Talking about the webring, it is not THAT big,
is it? We could ask all pages in the ring to move to
another service (or even ours) with cleaner HTML ;-).

Interesting that some people disliked the marble...
A gradient would be fine for me. Or a solid color.
The 1 pixel wide stripes are just very EGA :-p.

So my vote is: Use solid colors or a gradient.

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Updated FreeDOS web design

2007-06-08 Thread Jim Hall
The gradient looks nice - I've put it up on the web site.

-jh


On 6/8/07, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jim,

  http://www.freedos.org/?webring=no
  This validates as correct XHTML.

 Cool. Talking about the webring, it is not THAT big,
 is it? We could ask all pages in the ring to move to
 another service (or even ours) with cleaner HTML ;-).

 Interesting that some people disliked the marble...
 A gradient would be fine for me. Or a solid color.
 The 1 pixel wide stripes are just very EGA :-p.

 So my vote is: Use solid colors or a gradient.

 Eric


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