Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent
From: Rugxulo Hi, On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > have you checked whether there could be a problem with the > settings of your host operating system His details say kernel 2042, so maybe it's a regression?? Maybe he could try (older) 2041 instead? https://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos/files/Kernel/2041/ke2041_86f32.zip/dow load Or is he testing classic FD 1.1 or (newer) FD 1.2-pre? (Or some other variation?) Okay, obviously we need to see "full" FDCONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT somewhere. Try pasting them here: http://pastebin.com/ > and/or virtualbox? > > Please explain exactly in which way KEYB "does not work" inside virtualbox. But he says: "We can load custom keyboard settings in a virtualbox machine without any problems." Alas, no explicit error messages mentioned (or what lacking functionality is actually expected). Is this an upgrade? Has this worked before (with FreeDOS)? Is this something (relatively) newly broken? Or is it just not obvious to you how exactly to use KEYB (and friends, etc.)? > PS: You may also want to use DISPLAY and MODE to load a > font optimized for codepage 857, as BIOS default is 437. If he isn't using DISPLAY, MODE, etc. already, then that may be his problem. http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/display.htm (... continued below ...) >> We have a problem with using FreeDos keyboard layaout when we try to >> load any custom keyboard.We can load custom keyboard settings in a >> virtualbox machine without any problems. VBox works 100% fine, then? >> When we use on a Real Hardware Machine we didn't recieve any code >> errors but any other custom keyboard settings doesnt work. "Any other custom keyboard settings" ... what exactly "doesn't work" (anymore)?? >> We need to solve this problem for our work usage in Freedos urgently. >> FreeDos keyboard programmer or Assembler coder who can solve this >> problem for us please contact with me urgently. > >> Solver of this problem will be rewarded with 500$. I assume Tom Ehlert can whip up some quick Turkish support in MKEYB for you, if needed. (However, I don't think FD KEYB is totally beyond use, but I can't understand what you're seeing or missing.) >> FreeDos Version : 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00] Dos >> Version 7.10 FreeDOS kernel 2042 (build 2042 OEM:0xfd) [compiled May >> 11 2016] > >> Example of Running Code : A:\FREEDOS>keyb.exe TR,857,KEYBRD2.SYS >> FreeDOS KEYB 2.01 - (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0 >> Keyboard Layout : KEYBRD2.SYS [857] (3) Here's what last worked for me: if not "%DEFAULT%"=="853" keyb gk,,%DOSDIR%\keybrd2.sys Not much difference to your invocation, so I don't know what's choking for you. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (1:2320/105.99) --- * BgNet 1.0b12 = CCO * KY/US * 502/875-8938 * capcity2.synchro.net --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent
From: Rugxulo Hi, On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Unfortunately Turkish is not among the layouts built into the smaller MKEYB driver > > PS: You may also want to use DISPLAY and MODE to load a > font optimized for codepage 857, as BIOS default is 437. > >> Example of Running Code : A:\FREEDOS>keyb.exe TR,857,KEYBRD2.SYS BTW, just to state the obvious, although I know that cp857 is mostly preferred for Turkish (not that I understand it), but (with FreeDOS) I've used cp853 successfully (which was the previously preferred codepage for Turkish, Maltese, and Esperanto). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_853 But if all you want to do is edit text, you can even edit Unicode with various DOS editors (e.g. GNU Emacs, Blocek, or Mined). I'll try to quote the relevant config I've used for cp853 (it's been a while since I weakly tried it, but it did work): (FDCONFIG.SYS): COUNTRY=1,,C:\FDOS\COUNTRY.SYS (AUTOEXEC.BAT): set CPIDIR=%DOSDIR%\cpi display con=(ega,,3) mode con cp prep=((853) %CPIDIR%\ega.cpx) mode con cp prep=((,737,869) %CPIDIR%\ega5.cpx) mode con cp sel=853 set CPIDIR= nlsfunc /y %DOSDIR%\country.sys REM (can unload later, needs 286+) REM !! BUG ALERT !!: do NOT use 2009 KEYB*.SYS files w/ 2006 KEYB.EXE keyb us,,%DOSDIR%\keyboard.sys echo. echo KEYB: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to disable or Ctrl-Alt-F2 to re-enable! echo. mode con cp /status -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (1:2320/105.99) --- * BgNet 1.0b12 = CCO * KY/US * 502/875-8938 * capcity2.synchro.net --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent
From: Eric Auer Hi Salih, have you checked whether there could be a problem with the settings of your host operating system and/or virtualbox? Unfortunately Turkish is not among the layouts built into the smaller MKEYB driver, otherwise you could try if that works better than KEYB. Please explain exactly in which way KEYB "does not work" inside virtualbox. Thank you! Regards, Eric PS: You may also want to use DISPLAY and MODE to load a font optimized for codepage 857, as BIOS default is 437. > We have a problem with using FreeDos keyboard layaout when we try to > load any custom keyboard.We can load custom keyboard settings in a > virtualbox machine without any problems.When we use on a Real > Hardware Machine we didn't recieve any code errors but any other > custom keyboard settings doesnt work.We need to solve this problem > for our work usage in Freedos urgently. FreeDos keyboard programmer > or Assembler coder who can solve this problem for us please contact > with me urgently. > Solver of this problem will be rewarded with 500$. > FreeDos Version : 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00] Dos > Version 7.10 FreeDOS kernel 2042 (build 2042 OEM:0xfd) [compiled May > 11 2016] > Example of Running Code : A:\FREEDOS>keyb.exe TR,857,KEYBRD2.SYS > FreeDOS KEYB 2.01 - (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0 > Keyboard Layout : KEYBRD2.SYS [857] (3) -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (1:2320/105.99) --- * BgNet 1.0b12 = CCO * KY/US * 502/875-8938 * capcity2.synchro.net --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent
From: "Bret Johnson" --===532371248944126== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--__JWM__J7d08cbd6.290ecc65S.1e559ce6M" __JWM__J7d08cbd6.290ecc65S.1e559ce6M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 INT 15.4F is only part of the issue, there are other factors as well. The "limited" INT 9 support may or may not be enough to fix the problem (it's never helped when I've had problems with the keyboard, at least). -- Bret Johnson There is only one place in the universe where 0+0=1. That is in the mind of an evolutionist. Lotto-Crusher (Sponsored by Content.Ad) 1 Thing You're Missing When Buying A Lotto Ticket (Do This) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/57d6c38e3b7e9438e58e8st51vuc __JWM__J7d08cbd6.290ecc65S.1e559ce6M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 INT 15.4F is only part of the issue, there are other factors as well. The "limited" INT 9 support may or may not be enough to fix the problem (it's never helped when I've had problems with the keyboard, at least). --Bret Johnson There is only one place in the universe where 0+0=1. That is in the mind of an evolutionist. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/57d6c38e3b7e9438e58e8st51vuc"; target=_blank>Lotto-Crusher (Sponsored by Content.Ad)1 Thing You're Missing When Buying A Lotto Ticket (Do This)http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/57d6c38e3b7e9438e58e8st51vuc"; target=_blank>http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/57d6c38e3b7e9438e58e8st51 uc __JWM__J7d08cbd6.290ecc65S.1e559ce6M-- --===532371248944126== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- --===532371248944126== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --===532371248944126==-- --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (1:2320/105.99) --- * BgNet 1.0b12 = CCO * KY/US * 502/875-8938 * capcity2.synchro.net --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent
From: Bret You may need to use the Microsoft KEYB program (from MS-DOS) rather than the FREEDOS KEYB program. While the FreeDOS KEYB program works pretty well most of the time, it is NOT a true equivalent to the MS KEYB program. It sounds like a BIOS compatibility problem, which the MS KEYB program may be able to fix when the FreeDOS KEYB won't. -- View this message in context: http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/Urgent-FreeDos-Keyboard-Layout-Hardware-Help- p25444p25468.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (1:2320/105.99) --- * BgNet 1.0b12 = CCO * KY/US * 502/875-8938 * capcity2.synchro.net --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent
From: Eric Auer Hi Bret, > You may need to use the Microsoft KEYB program (from MS-DOS) rather than the > FREEDOS KEYB program. While the FreeDOS KEYB program works pretty well most > of the time, it is NOT a true equivalent to the MS KEYB program. It sounds > like a BIOS compatibility problem, which the MS KEYB program may be able to > fix when the FreeDOS KEYB won't. If you are hinting at lack of int 15.4f support: The FreeDOS KEYB has the /9 option for limited int 9 based keyboard support in that case. Regards, Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (1:2320/105.99) --- * BgNet 1.0b12 = CCO * KY/US * 502/875-8938 * capcity2.synchro.net --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent FreeDos Keyboard Layout Hardware Help
INT 15.4F is only part of the issue, there are other factors as well. The "limited" INT 9 support may or may not be enough to fix the problem (it's never helped when I've had problems with the keyboard, at least). -- Bret Johnson There is only one place in the universe where 0+0=1. That is in the mind of an evolutionist. Lotto-Crusher (Sponsored by Content.Ad) 1 Thing You're Missing When Buying A Lotto Ticket (Do This) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/57d6c38e3b7e9438e58e8st51vuc-- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent FreeDos Keyboard Layout Hardware Help
Hi Bret, > You may need to use the Microsoft KEYB program (from MS-DOS) rather than the > FREEDOS KEYB program. While the FreeDOS KEYB program works pretty well most > of the time, it is NOT a true equivalent to the MS KEYB program. It sounds > like a BIOS compatibility problem, which the MS KEYB program may be able to > fix when the FreeDOS KEYB won't. If you are hinting at lack of int 15.4f support: The FreeDOS KEYB has the /9 option for limited int 9 based keyboard support in that case. Regards, Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent FreeDos Keyboard Layout Hardware Help
You may need to use the Microsoft KEYB program (from MS-DOS) rather than the FREEDOS KEYB program. While the FreeDOS KEYB program works pretty well most of the time, it is NOT a true equivalent to the MS KEYB program. It sounds like a BIOS compatibility problem, which the MS KEYB program may be able to fix when the FreeDOS KEYB won't. -- View this message in context: http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/Urgent-FreeDos-Keyboard-Layout-Hardware-Help-tp25444p25468.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent FreeDos Keyboard Layout Hardware Help
Hi Salih, not sure if you have fully answered all my questions, so let me ask for details: Are you using PXE on virtualbox, too? Are you using memdisk to boot via PXE? In short, are all aspects of the software and configuration completely identical between the real terminal pc hardware and the virtualbox situation? Could you let us see your config and autoexec files, maybe even mentioning the version numbers of the used drivers? Thanks! Regards, Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent FreeDos Keyboard Layout Hardware Help
Hi, On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Unfortunately Turkish is not among the layouts built into the smaller MKEYB > driver > > PS: You may also want to use DISPLAY and MODE to load a > font optimized for codepage 857, as BIOS default is 437. > >> Example of Running Code : A:\FREEDOS>keyb.exe TR,857,KEYBRD2.SYS BTW, just to state the obvious, although I know that cp857 is mostly preferred for Turkish (not that I understand it), but (with FreeDOS) I've used cp853 successfully (which was the previously preferred codepage for Turkish, Maltese, and Esperanto). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_853 But if all you want to do is edit text, you can even edit Unicode with various DOS editors (e.g. GNU Emacs, Blocek, or Mined). I'll try to quote the relevant config I've used for cp853 (it's been a while since I weakly tried it, but it did work): (FDCONFIG.SYS): COUNTRY=1,,C:\FDOS\COUNTRY.SYS (AUTOEXEC.BAT): set CPIDIR=%DOSDIR%\cpi display con=(ega,,3) mode con cp prep=((853) %CPIDIR%\ega.cpx) mode con cp prep=((,737,869) %CPIDIR%\ega5.cpx) mode con cp sel=853 set CPIDIR= nlsfunc /y %DOSDIR%\country.sys REM (can unload later, needs 286+) REM !! BUG ALERT !!: do NOT use 2009 KEYB*.SYS files w/ 2006 KEYB.EXE keyb us,,%DOSDIR%\keyboard.sys echo. echo KEYB: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to disable or Ctrl-Alt-F2 to re-enable! echo. mode con cp /status -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent FreeDos Keyboard Layout Hardware Help
Hi, On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > have you checked whether there could be a problem with the > settings of your host operating system His details say kernel 2042, so maybe it's a regression?? Maybe he could try (older) 2041 instead? https://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos/files/Kernel/2041/ke2041_86f32.zip/download Or is he testing classic FD 1.1 or (newer) FD 1.2-pre? (Or some other variation?) Okay, obviously we need to see "full" FDCONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT somewhere. Try pasting them here: http://pastebin.com/ > and/or virtualbox? > > Please explain exactly in which way KEYB "does not work" inside virtualbox. But he says: "We can load custom keyboard settings in a virtualbox machine without any problems." Alas, no explicit error messages mentioned (or what lacking functionality is actually expected). Is this an upgrade? Has this worked before (with FreeDOS)? Is this something (relatively) newly broken? Or is it just not obvious to you how exactly to use KEYB (and friends, etc.)? > PS: You may also want to use DISPLAY and MODE to load a > font optimized for codepage 857, as BIOS default is 437. If he isn't using DISPLAY, MODE, etc. already, then that may be his problem. http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/display.htm (... continued below ...) >> We have a problem with using FreeDos keyboard layaout when we try to >> load any custom keyboard.We can load custom keyboard settings in a >> virtualbox machine without any problems. VBox works 100% fine, then? >> When we use on a Real Hardware Machine we didn't recieve any code >> errors but any other custom keyboard settings doesnt work. "Any other custom keyboard settings" ... what exactly "doesn't work" (anymore)?? >> We need to solve this problem for our work usage in Freedos urgently. >> FreeDos keyboard programmer or Assembler coder who can solve this >> problem for us please contact with me urgently. > >> Solver of this problem will be rewarded with 500$. I assume Tom Ehlert can whip up some quick Turkish support in MKEYB for you, if needed. (However, I don't think FD KEYB is totally beyond use, but I can't understand what you're seeing or missing.) >> FreeDos Version : 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00] Dos >> Version 7.10 FreeDOS kernel 2042 (build 2042 OEM:0xfd) [compiled May >> 11 2016] > >> Example of Running Code : A:\FREEDOS>keyb.exe TR,857,KEYBRD2.SYS >> FreeDOS KEYB 2.01 - (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0 >> Keyboard Layout : KEYBRD2.SYS [857] (3) Here's what last worked for me: if not "%DEFAULT%"=="853" keyb gk,,%DOSDIR%\keybrd2.sys Not much difference to your invocation, so I don't know what's choking for you. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Urgent FreeDos Keyboard Layout Hardware Help
Hi Salih, have you checked whether there could be a problem with the settings of your host operating system and/or virtualbox? Unfortunately Turkish is not among the layouts built into the smaller MKEYB driver, otherwise you could try if that works better than KEYB. Please explain exactly in which way KEYB "does not work" inside virtualbox. Thank you! Regards, Eric PS: You may also want to use DISPLAY and MODE to load a font optimized for codepage 857, as BIOS default is 437. > We have a problem with using FreeDos keyboard layaout when we try to > load any custom keyboard.We can load custom keyboard settings in a > virtualbox machine without any problems.When we use on a Real > Hardware Machine we didn't recieve any code errors but any other > custom keyboard settings doesnt work.We need to solve this problem > for our work usage in Freedos urgently. FreeDos keyboard programmer > or Assembler coder who can solve this problem for us please contact > with me urgently. > Solver of this problem will be rewarded with 500$. > FreeDos Version : 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00] Dos > Version 7.10 FreeDOS kernel 2042 (build 2042 OEM:0xfd) [compiled May > 11 2016] > Example of Running Code : A:\FREEDOS>keyb.exe TR,857,KEYBRD2.SYS > FreeDOS KEYB 2.01 - (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0 > Keyboard Layout : KEYBRD2.SYS [857] (3) -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
