Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-30 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 30.11.2016 16:09, Rob Crittenden wrote: David Kupka wrote: On 29/11/16 18:10, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: Still, bug reports and users' complaints is the only external measure we have. There are close to nothing in complaints about NTP functionality, other than requests to support chronyd and

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 16:57 +0100, David Kupka wrote: > Upgrades to 4.x will revert configuration if done by FreeIPA. Why would you revert a perfectly valid configuration ? I can understand that you wan to stop managing the server, but I do not see why you should un-configure it. > I think it's

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-30 Thread David Kupka
On 30/11/16 16:09, Rob Crittenden wrote: David Kupka wrote: On 29/11/16 18:10, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: Still, bug reports and users' complaints is the only external measure we have. There are close to nothing in complaints about NTP functionality, other than requests to support chronyd and a

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-30 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ke, 30 marras 2016, Rob Crittenden wrote: David Kupka wrote: On 29/11/16 18:10, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: Still, bug reports and users' complaints is the only external measure we have. There are close to nothing in complaints about NTP functionality, other than requests to support chronyd

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-30 Thread Rob Crittenden
David Kupka wrote: > On 29/11/16 18:10, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: >> Still, bug reports and users' complaints is the only external measure we >> have. There are close to nothing in complaints about NTP functionality, >> other than requests to support chronyd and a better discover of existing >> NTP

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-30 Thread David Kupka
On 29/11/16 18:10, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: On ti, 29 marras 2016, Petr Spacek wrote: On 29.11.2016 16:02, Rob Crittenden wrote: Petr Spacek wrote: On 29.11.2016 09:11, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 28.11.2016 20:57, Rob Crittenden wrote: David Kupka wrote: On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote:

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-29 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ti, 29 marras 2016, Petr Spacek wrote: On 29.11.2016 16:02, Rob Crittenden wrote: Petr Spacek wrote: On 29.11.2016 09:11, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 28.11.2016 20:57, Rob Crittenden wrote: David Kupka wrote: On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: I would say that it is worth keeping in

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-29 Thread Petr Spacek
On 29.11.2016 16:02, Rob Crittenden wrote: > Petr Spacek wrote: >> On 29.11.2016 09:11, Jan Cholasta wrote: >>> On 28.11.2016 20:57, Rob Crittenden wrote: David Kupka wrote: > On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: >> I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-29 Thread Rob Crittenden
Petr Spacek wrote: > On 29.11.2016 09:11, Jan Cholasta wrote: >> On 28.11.2016 20:57, Rob Crittenden wrote: >>> David Kupka wrote: On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: > I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and some > customers use its functionality by

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-29 Thread Petr Spacek
On 29.11.2016 09:11, Jan Cholasta wrote: > On 28.11.2016 20:57, Rob Crittenden wrote: >> David Kupka wrote: >>> On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and some customers use its functionality by having the clients sync to the

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-29 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 28.11.2016 20:57, Rob Crittenden wrote: David Kupka wrote: On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and some customers use its functionality by having the clients sync to the IPA servers and have the servers sync to the NTP source.

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-28 Thread John Dennis
On 11/28/2016 02:57 PM, Rob Crittenden wrote: David Kupka wrote: On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and some customers use its functionality by having the clients sync to the IPA servers and have the servers sync to the NTP

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-28 Thread Rob Crittenden
David Kupka wrote: > On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: >> I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and some >> customers use its functionality by having the clients sync to the IPA >> servers and have the servers sync to the NTP source. This way if the NTP >> source ever

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-25 Thread Martin Basti
On 24.11.2016 20:31, Gabe Alford wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Martin Basti > wrote: On 24.11.2016 16:11, Gabe Alford wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:29 AM, Martin Basti >

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-24 Thread Gabe Alford
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Martin Basti wrote: > > > On 24.11.2016 16:11, Gabe Alford wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:29 AM, Martin Basti wrote: > >> >> >> On 24.11.2016 07:06, David Kupka wrote: >> >>> On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: >>>

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-24 Thread Petr Spacek
On 24.11.2016 17:14, Martin Basti wrote: > If NTP is still configured on the IPA server, this may be less of an issue. > Not everyone has/is/will be using ansible. Also in secure environments, DHCP > is not allowed/used at all. If DHCP is not good enough for your environment then you *must not*

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-24 Thread Martin Basti
On 24.11.2016 16:11, Gabe Alford wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:29 AM, Martin Basti > wrote: On 24.11.2016 07:06, David Kupka wrote: On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: I would say that it is worth keeping in

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-24 Thread Martin Basti
On 24.11.2016 07:06, David Kupka wrote: On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and some customers use its functionality by having the clients sync to the IPA servers and have the servers sync to the NTP source. This way if the NTP

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-23 Thread David Kupka
On 22/11/16 23:15, Gabe Alford wrote: I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and some customers use its functionality by having the clients sync to the IPA servers and have the servers sync to the NTP source. This way if the NTP source ever gets disrupted for long periods

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-22 Thread Gabe Alford
I would say that it is worth keeping in FreeIPA. I know myself and some customers use its functionality by having the clients sync to the IPA servers and have the servers sync to the NTP source. This way if the NTP source ever gets disrupted for long periods of time (which has happened in my

Re: [Freeipa-devel] NTP in FreeIPA

2016-11-22 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 22.11.2016 13:06, Petr Spacek wrote: On 22.11.2016 12:15, David Kupka wrote: Hello everyone! Is it worth to keep configuring NTP in FreeIPA? In usual environment there're no special requirements for time synchronization and the distribution default (be it ntpd, chrony or anything else)