Re: [Freeipa-users] IPA/AD domain trust - unidirectional or bidirectional?

2015-05-20 Thread opsource trail
Hi Alex,
thanks for your prompt response. This more/less sums up our arguments, but
definitely the AD protocol documentation might be helpful.

Best regards,
Jan

2015-05-20 11:39 GMT+02:00 Alexander Bokovoy :

> On Wed, 20 May 2015, opsource trail wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> we plan to deploy IPA (Red Hat IdM) trust with AD domain but at the moment
>> we are kind of confused about what type of trust we will need to deal
>> with.
>> In Red Hat documentation we get an information that:
>>
>> "... Trusts, then, are essentially unidirectional. Active Directory users
>> can access IdM resources and services, but IdM users cannot access Active
>> Directory resources... "
>> (
>>
>> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Identity_Management_Guide/active-directory-trust.html
>> )
>>
> I tried to get technical writers to rewrite this sentence but so far
> unsuccessful. There seems to be some fundamental misunderstanding at
> hand, unfortunately.
>
>  On the other hand, when I configure the trust I can clearly see that it is
>> actually bidirectional:
>> [root@ipaserver ~]# ipa trust-add --type=ad adexample.com --admin
>> Administrator --password
>> --
>> Added Active Directory trust for realm "adexample.com"
>> --
>>  Realm name: adexample.com
>>  Domain NetBIOS name: ADEXAMPLE
>>  Domain Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-1689615952-3716327440-3249090444
>>  Trust direction: Two-way trust
>>  Trust type: Active Directory domain
>>  Trust status: Established and verified
>>
>> I'm afraid that our Windows department will complain and consider this as
>> a
>> security issue.
>>
> No, it is not a security issue, regardless what your Windows department
> would like to think. They may better spend time looking into actual
> Active Directory protocols documentation at
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj712081.aspx to realise
> situation is much more complex than a binary division between 'secure'
> and 'insecure'.
>
>  Is there anybody who could help me understand this?
>>
> You can start with http://www.freeipa.org/page/V4/One-way_trust to get
> yourself a high level overview and comparison of what two-way and
> one-way trust mean in the context of IPA and Active Directory.
>
> --
> / Alexander Bokovoy
>
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Re: [Freeipa-users] IPA/AD domain trust - unidirectional or bidirectional?

2015-05-20 Thread Alexander Bokovoy

On Wed, 20 May 2015, opsource trail wrote:

Hello,
we plan to deploy IPA (Red Hat IdM) trust with AD domain but at the moment
we are kind of confused about what type of trust we will need to deal with.
In Red Hat documentation we get an information that:

"... Trusts, then, are essentially unidirectional. Active Directory users
can access IdM resources and services, but IdM users cannot access Active
Directory resources... "
(
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Identity_Management_Guide/active-directory-trust.html
)

I tried to get technical writers to rewrite this sentence but so far
unsuccessful. There seems to be some fundamental misunderstanding at
hand, unfortunately.


On the other hand, when I configure the trust I can clearly see that it is
actually bidirectional:
[root@ipaserver ~]# ipa trust-add --type=ad adexample.com --admin
Administrator --password
--
Added Active Directory trust for realm "adexample.com"
--
 Realm name: adexample.com
 Domain NetBIOS name: ADEXAMPLE
 Domain Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-1689615952-3716327440-3249090444
 Trust direction: Two-way trust
 Trust type: Active Directory domain
 Trust status: Established and verified

I'm afraid that our Windows department will complain and consider this as a
security issue.

No, it is not a security issue, regardless what your Windows department
would like to think. They may better spend time looking into actual
Active Directory protocols documentation at
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj712081.aspx to realise
situation is much more complex than a binary division between 'secure'
and 'insecure'.


Is there anybody who could help me understand this?

You can start with http://www.freeipa.org/page/V4/One-way_trust to get
yourself a high level overview and comparison of what two-way and
one-way trust mean in the context of IPA and Active Directory.

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/ Alexander Bokovoy

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[Freeipa-users] IPA/AD domain trust - unidirectional or bidirectional?

2015-05-20 Thread opsource trail
Hello,
we plan to deploy IPA (Red Hat IdM) trust with AD domain but at the moment
we are kind of confused about what type of trust we will need to deal with.
In Red Hat documentation we get an information that:

"... Trusts, then, are essentially unidirectional. Active Directory users
can access IdM resources and services, but IdM users cannot access Active
Directory resources... "
(
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Identity_Management_Guide/active-directory-trust.html
)

On the other hand, when I configure the trust I can clearly see that it is
actually bidirectional:
[root@ipaserver ~]# ipa trust-add --type=ad adexample.com --admin
Administrator --password
--
Added Active Directory trust for realm "adexample.com"
--
  Realm name: adexample.com
  Domain NetBIOS name: ADEXAMPLE
  Domain Security Identifier: S-1-5-21-1689615952-3716327440-3249090444
  Trust direction: Two-way trust
  Trust type: Active Directory domain
  Trust status: Established and verified

I'm afraid that our Windows department will complain and consider this as a
security issue.

Is there anybody who could help me understand this?

Thanks!

All the best.

Jan
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