Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-08 Thread Rob Crittenden

Rich Megginson wrote:

On 06/07/2011 03:41 PM, Steven Jones wrote:

Hi,

For most users I will want to allow the same password in AD as in
freeipaso a linux or windows desktop will work with a linux or
windows service.but for some specific financial servers/services I
need a stricter password capability to meet our audit criteria.

In 389 you can set password policy on a per-user or per-subtree basis.
With a little extra work, you could probably get this working on a
per-group or per-role basis as well. This should apply to IPA as well,
depending on how they have implemented support for password policy.


We have per-group password policy but we don't use the 389-ds password 
policy engine. What I don't know is what happens if you set a lousy 
password in AD whether that gets replicated to IPA. Will it be rejected, 
accepted?


rob

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Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-08 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 10:27 -0400, Rob Crittenden wrote:
 Rich Megginson wrote:
  On 06/07/2011 03:41 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
  Hi,
 
  For most users I will want to allow the same password in AD as in
  freeipaso a linux or windows desktop will work with a linux or
  windows service.but for some specific financial servers/services I
  need a stricter password capability to meet our audit criteria.
  In 389 you can set password policy on a per-user or per-subtree basis.
  With a little extra work, you could probably get this working on a
  per-group or per-role basis as well. This should apply to IPA as well,
  depending on how they have implemented support for password policy.
 
 We have per-group password policy but we don't use the 389-ds password 
 policy engine. What I don't know is what happens if you set a lousy 
 password in AD whether that gets replicated to IPA. Will it be rejected, 
 accepted?

The ipa-pwd-extop module has a list of users that can set passwords w/o
having them quality checked. The passsync user is normally one of these
users. And passwords replicated from windows are not quality checked.

Simo.

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Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-07 Thread Rich Megginson

On 06/07/2011 03:03 PM, Steven Jones wrote:

Hi,

Is it possible to set some users so they will not psswoard sync with AD while 
most do?

Do you want the user data to sync, just not the passwords?

regards

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Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-07 Thread Rich Megginson

On 06/07/2011 03:29 PM, Steven Jones wrote:

Hi,

I thought with freeipa 2.0 it could only sync passwords?
Usually PassSync works in conjunction with Windows Sync - you first sync 
the users from AD to IPA, then when the AD password changes, PassSync 
finds the corresponding user in IPA (synced over by Windows Sync), then 
sends the updated password for that user.

Basically our security manager wants stricter and stronger password control on 
our financial linux powered servers than is the policy set in AD, which is 
pathetic
What sort of password control?  Minimum length?  Character classes?  
Password history checking?

regards

From: Rich Megginson [rmegg...@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011 9:20 a.m.
To: Steven Jones
Cc: freeipa-users@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

On 06/07/2011 03:03 PM, Steven Jones wrote:

Hi,

Is it possible to set some users so they will not psswoard sync with AD while 
most do?

Do you want the user data to sync, just not the passwords?

regards

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Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-07 Thread Rich Megginson

On 06/07/2011 03:36 PM, Steven Jones wrote:

What sort of password control?  Minimum length?  Character classes?
Password history checking?

yes, yes and yes...

regards
With plain old 389, you can do all of these and more.  IPA has its own 
password checking plugin, so it may differ slightly.


But what does this have to do with Windows PassSync?

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Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-07 Thread Steven Jones
Hi,

For most users I will want to allow the same password in AD as in freeipaso 
a linux or windows desktop will work with a linux or windows service.but 
for some specific financial servers/services I need a stricter password 
capability to meet our audit criteria.

regards



From: Rich Megginson [rmegg...@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011 9:36 a.m.
To: Steven Jones
Cc: freeipa-users@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

On 06/07/2011 03:36 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
 What sort of password control?  Minimum length?  Character classes?
 Password history checking?
 yes, yes and yes...

 regards
With plain old 389, you can do all of these and more.  IPA has its own
password checking plugin, so it may differ slightly.

But what does this have to do with Windows PassSync?

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Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-07 Thread Rich Megginson

On 06/07/2011 03:41 PM, Steven Jones wrote:

Hi,

For most users I will want to allow the same password in AD as in freeipaso 
a linux or windows desktop will work with a linux or windows service.but 
for some specific financial servers/services I need a stricter password 
capability to meet our audit criteria.
In 389 you can set password policy on a per-user or per-subtree basis.  
With a little extra work, you could probably get this working on a 
per-group or per-role basis as well.  This should apply to IPA as well, 
depending on how they have implemented support for password policy.

regards



From: Rich Megginson [rmegg...@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011 9:36 a.m.
To: Steven Jones
Cc: freeipa-users@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

On 06/07/2011 03:36 PM, Steven Jones wrote:

What sort of password control?  Minimum length?  Character classes?
Password history checking?

yes, yes and yes...

regards

With plain old 389, you can do all of these and more.  IPA has its own
password checking plugin, so it may differ slightly.

But what does this have to do with Windows PassSync?


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Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-07 Thread Dmitri Pal
On 06/07/2011 05:41 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
 Hi,

 For most users I will want to allow the same password in AD as in 
 freeipaso a linux or windows desktop will work with a linux or windows 
 service.but for some specific financial servers/services I need a 
 stricter password capability to meet our audit criteria.


But you still need to synch the users for those servers or you can
created specific users in IPA and apply more restrictive password
policies to them?
In IPA v2 you can have password policies per group.


 regards


 
 From: Rich Megginson [rmegg...@redhat.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011 9:36 a.m.
 To: Steven Jones
 Cc: freeipa-users@redhat.com
 Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

 On 06/07/2011 03:36 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
 What sort of password control?  Minimum length?  Character classes?
 Password history checking?
 yes, yes and yes...

 regards
 With plain old 389, you can do all of these and more.  IPA has its own
 password checking plugin, so it may differ slightly.

 But what does this have to do with Windows PassSync?

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Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

2011-06-07 Thread Steven Jones
Thanks...

Some options to suggest

you can create specific users in IPA and apply more restrictive password
policies to them?

Sounds the better way

regards

From: freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com [freeipa-users-boun...@redhat.com] on 
behalf of Dmitri Pal [d...@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011 9:50 a.m.
To: freeipa-users@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

On 06/07/2011 05:41 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
 Hi,

 For most users I will want to allow the same password in AD as in 
 freeipaso a linux or windows desktop will work with a linux or windows 
 service.but for some specific financial servers/services I need a 
 stricter password capability to meet our audit criteria.


But you still need to synch the users for those servers or you can
created specific users in IPA and apply more restrictive password
policies to them?
In IPA v2 you can have password policies per group.


 regards


 
 From: Rich Megginson [rmegg...@redhat.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011 9:36 a.m.
 To: Steven Jones
 Cc: freeipa-users@redhat.com
 Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] sync passwords with AD or not per user

 On 06/07/2011 03:36 PM, Steven Jones wrote:
 What sort of password control?  Minimum length?  Character classes?
 Password history checking?
 yes, yes and yes...

 regards
 With plain old 389, you can do all of these and more.  IPA has its own
 password checking plugin, so it may differ slightly.

 But what does this have to do with Windows PassSync?

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