Re: [Freeipmi-devel] tweaked Sun workaround text

2009-06-11 Thread Dave Love
Al Chu ch...@llnl.gov writes:

 A.  Ok ... then in that case I should put:

 Sun Fire 2200/4150/4450 with ELOM

 I didn't understand that it was an ELOM thing.

I can't actually demonstrate that on the other systems, but I think it
must be the case; I assume ELOM has the same lan bugs on any system that
runs it.  At least one of the 4150 and 4450 -- I can't recall what I
looked up -- is upgradable to ILOM, in which case the workaround will
change.

 I generally dislike documenting version numbers in b/c they can be out
 of date very quickly.

Yes.  That was just `it's not fixed as of that version'.

 Also, how are you getting the firmware version
 number?  B/c the IPMI way to get version numbers doesn't have that much
 detail.

Yes, it's annoying.  SSH to the SP says it on login, and `version' has
further details:

  - version
  SP firmware 2.0.2.5
  SP firmware build number: 32265
  SP firmware date: Fri Apr 25 20:35:59 PDT 2008
  SP filesystem version: 0.1.14
  
Of course, you can't just do `ssh host version', sigh.  The web
interface has the same info.

On the other hand, ELOM says `Version 3.15' in the login banner and the
IPMI info, but this from the CLI:

  /SP - version
  SM CLP Version v1.0.0
  SM ME Addressing Version v1.0.0
  /SP - show -d properties AgentInfo FWVersion
  
/SP/AgentInfo
  Properties:
  FWVersion = 3.15
  
Don't get me started on the inconsistency, and the fact that our x2200s
can't be upgraded to ILOM!


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Re: [Freeipmi-devel] tweaked Sun workaround text

2009-06-10 Thread Dave Love
Al Chu ch...@llnl.gov writes:

 Hey Dave,

 Thanks for some of the clarifications.  I'd like to keep the ordering
 the same b/c it's actually split up IPMI 1.5 vs. IPMI 2.0.

Ah, that wasn't immediately obvious.

 And some of the text was from folks at Sun.  So I've done the below
 patch instead.  Look good?

I think it's misleading to list `Sun Fire X2200/X4150/X4450' other than
as examples.  As far as I can tell, this is a generic ELOM thing, and
the should say `ELOM'.  Also, the `reported to be fixed in a later
release' is from at least a year ago, according to CVS, and it hasn't
happened yet as far as I can tell; I think it's at least worth saying
it's not fixed as of 2.0.2.5.

I could see if my hardware-oriented HPC Sun contact knows any more if
that would be helpful.


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Re: [Freeipmi-devel] tweaked Sun workaround text

2009-06-10 Thread Al Chu
Hey Dave,

On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 15:06 +0100, Dave Love wrote:
 Al Chu ch...@llnl.gov writes:
 
  Hey Dave,
 
  Thanks for some of the clarifications.  I'd like to keep the ordering
  the same b/c it's actually split up IPMI 1.5 vs. IPMI 2.0.
 
 Ah, that wasn't immediately obvious.
 
  And some of the text was from folks at Sun.  So I've done the below
  patch instead.  Look good?
 
 I think it's misleading to list `Sun Fire X2200/X4150/X4450' other than
 as examples.  As far as I can tell, this is a generic ELOM thing, and
 the should say `ELOM'.

A.  Ok ... then in that case I should put:

Sun Fire 2200/4150/4450 with ELOM

I didn't understand that it was an ELOM thing.

 Also, the `reported to be fixed in a later
 release' is from at least a year ago, according to CVS, and it hasn't
 happened yet as far as I can tell;

Fair point.  It's a phrase that I've added to many workarounds as long
as the vendor says that they are working on it.  I think I'll remove it.

 I think it's at least worth saying
 it's not fixed as of 2.0.2.5.

I generally dislike documenting version numbers in b/c they can be out
of date very quickly.  Also, how are you getting the firmware version
number?  B/c the IPMI way to get version numbers doesn't have that much
detail.

#  /usr/sbin/bmc-info  | grep sion
Device Revision:   1
Firmware Revision: 2.00
IPMI Version:  2.0
Aux Firmware Revision Info: 302h

 I could see if my hardware-oriented HPC Sun contact knows any more if
 that would be helpful.

Ok, hopefully we can get more clarifications.

Al

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[Freeipmi-devel] tweaked Sun workaround text

2009-06-09 Thread Dave Love
As far as I can tell, the Sun workarounds are generic in ELOM and ILOM,
and haven't been fixed in the current versions.  I have x4100 with ILOM
1.0 and 2.0, x2200M2 with ELOM 2.0, and x4200m2 and x4500 with ILOM 2.0.
All seem to need the workarounds, and have the latest firmware apart
from ILOM 1.0.

I think this change to the text makes it clearer, and it's worth keeping
the Sun bits together.

By the way, ELOM is EOLed -- we're stuck with its problems on most of
our kit, sigh -- but there is an ILOM 3 in the works; perhaps that fixes
the bugs, and I'll try to check if other people here get newer kit with
it on.

2009-06-09  Dave Love  f...@gnu.org

	* common/man/manpage-common-workaround-text.man: Tweak the Sun
	stuff.

*** manpage-common-workaround-text.man	08 Apr 2009 21:47:05 +0100	1.6
--- manpage-common-workaround-text.man	09 Jun 2009 14:40:00 +0100	
***
*** 41,54 
  username invalid or k_g invalid errors to occur.  In order to work
  around this issue, the authcap workaround must be specified.
  .LP
! Sun ILOM 2.0: The session sequence numbers returned for IPMI 1.5
! sessions are the wrong endian on some systems running ILOM 2.0.  The
  incorrect endian depends on the service processor endianness.  This
  will likely cause session timeout errors to occur.  In order to work
! around this issue, the endianseq workaround must be specified.  This
! problem is reported to be fixed in a later release.
  .LP
! Sun Fire X4150/X4450: The motherboard does not properly report
  username capabilities.  This will likely cause username invalid
  errors to occur.  In order to work around this issue, the authcap
  workaround must be specified.
--- 41,63 
  username invalid or k_g invalid errors to occur.  In order to work
  around this issue, the authcap workaround must be specified.
  .LP
! Sun ILOM 1.0 and 2.0: The session sequence numbers returned for IPMI 1.5
! sessions are the wrong endian on some systems running ILOM 1.0 and 2.0
! (at least up to 2.0.2.5).  The
  incorrect endian depends on the service processor endianness.  This
  will likely cause session timeout errors to occur.  In order to work
! around this issue, the endianseq workaround must be specified.
! .\ This problem is reported to be fixed in a later release.
  .LP
! Sun ILOM (at least up to 2.0.2.5) with IPMI 2.0:
! There are several Sun IPMI 2.0 bugs.  These
! problems may cause password invalid or bmc error errors to occur.
! They can be worked around by specifying the sun20 workaround.  The
! workarounds include handling invalid lengthed hash keys and invalid
! cipher suite records.
! .LP
! Sun ELOM (seen on at least X2200/X4150/X4450): The motherboard does
! not properly report
  username capabilities.  This will likely cause username invalid
  errors to occur.  In order to work around this issue, the authcap
  workaround must be specified.
***
*** 68,79 
  cause password invalid errors to occur.  These compliance bugs are
  confirmed to be fixed on newer firmware.
  .LP
- Sun Fire 4100 with ILOM: There are several Sun IPMI 2.0 bugs.  These
- problems may cause password invalid or bmc error errors to occur.
- They can be worked around by specifying the sun20 workaround.  The
- workarounds include handling invalid lengthed hash keys and invalid
- cipher suite records.
- .LP
  Inventec 5441: The privilege level sent during the Open Session stage
  of an IPMI 2.0 connection is used for hashing keys instead of the
  privilege level sent during the RAKP1 connection stage.  This may
--- 77,82 
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Re: [Freeipmi-devel] tweaked Sun workaround text

2009-06-09 Thread Al Chu
Hey Dave,

Thanks for some of the clarifications.  I'd like to keep the ordering
the same b/c it's actually split up IPMI 1.5 vs. IPMI 2.0.  And some of
the text was from folks at Sun.  So I've done the below patch instead.
Look good?

Al

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 15:02 +0100, Dave Love wrote:
 As far as I can tell, the Sun workarounds are generic in ELOM and ILOM,
 and haven't been fixed in the current versions.  I have x4100 with ILOM
 1.0 and 2.0, x2200M2 with ELOM 2.0, and x4200m2 and x4500 with ILOM 2.0.
 All seem to need the workarounds, and have the latest firmware apart
 from ILOM 1.0.
 
 I think this change to the text makes it clearer, and it's worth keeping
 the Sun bits together.
 
 By the way, ELOM is EOLed -- we're stuck with its problems on most of
 our kit, sigh -- but there is an ILOM 3 in the works; perhaps that fixes
 the bugs, and I'll try to check if other people here get newer kit with
 it on.
 
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