Re: [Freesurfer] QDEC and Hippocampal subfields

2013-05-17 Thread Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Hi Marcos, the hippocampal subfield volumes are single values for each subject and hemisphere, so you cannot display them on the brain surface. Cheers, /Eugenio On Thu, May 16, 2013 6:22 pm, Marcos Martins da Silva wrote: Hi, Doug Thank you for your answer. Well I guess that after I read your

Re: [Freesurfer] conversion from ascii to surface

2013-05-17 Thread Tina Jeon
Dear Bruce, Yes I have, My input: mris_convert ./neo024_2_lh.pial.asc ./neo024_2_lh.pial Segmentation fault Can you lead me as to why there is an error? Thank you, Tina -Original Message- From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:49

[Freesurfer] T or Z values in QDEC

2013-05-17 Thread Kelly, Philip
Dear Freesurfer list members, Within QDEC I have found a number of clusters that show significantly different cortical thickness and local gyrification between two groups. The cluster summary exhibits the p value, coordinates and other information regarding the cluster, however I wanted to

[Freesurfer] T or Z values in QDEC

2013-05-17 Thread Kelly, Philip
Dear Freesurfer list members, Within QDEC I have found a number of clusters that show significantly different cortical thickness and local gyrification between two groups. The cluster summary exhibits the p value, coordinates and other information regarding the cluster, however I wanted to

Re: [Freesurfer] conversion from ascii to surface

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Tina can you send me the ascii file? Note that we assume in many places that the surface files start with a hemisphere specifier, so your output should probably be lh.neo024_2_pial or something like that. I doubt that's why it's crashing though Bruce On Fri, 17 May 2013, Tina Jeon wrote:

Re: [Freesurfer] conversion from ascii to surface

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Tina how did you create the ascii file? The problem is that some of the faces contain vertex numbers that are you of range. Note that the vertex indices in the face list must be 0-based, not 1-based. Your file specifies 12722 vertices, but then lists some faces as having vertex number

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Bruce, I tried adding control points in the white matter in that region, however, it does not seem to fix the issue. Also, the brainmask.mgz does not seem to exclude this part of the brain, so that is not the problem either. I am attaching another screenshot (horizontal 119) to illustrate the

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Caspar yes, that might help. There are expert opts for this. Sorry, I have almost no experience analyzing monkey brains at .5mm, so I'm really not sure what to advise you. Perhaps one of the other people on list who have done a bunch can comment? Bruce On Fri, 17 May 2013, Caspar M.

Re: [Freesurfer] conversion from ascii to surface

2013-05-17 Thread Tina Jeon
I created the ascii file directly from amira, which from what I understand is 0 based. -Original Message- From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:15 AM To: Tina Jeon Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] conversion from

Re: [Freesurfer] conversion from ascii to surface

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
something is wrong as there should be no vertex indices 12721 On Fri, 17 May 2013, Tina Jeon wrote: I created the ascii file directly from amira, which from what I understand is 0 based. -Original Message- From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Friday, May

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Matt Glasser
Hard to fix if that is the receive field and you don't have another image like a T2w to remove it with. Perhaps mri_normalize can be tuned to improve this with expert options as the white matter that is being correctly segmented appears to be darker as well. Peace, Matt. On 5/17/13 9:30 AM,

Re: [Freesurfer] conversion from ascii to surface

2013-05-17 Thread Tina Jeon
Great! I subtracted the vertices by one and now it works. Appreciate your help and fast responses. Tina -Original Message- From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:37 AM To: Tina Jeon Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: RE:

Re: [Freesurfer] conversion from ascii to surface

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
sure. Glad it worked out Bruce On Fri, 17 May 2013, Tina Jeon wrote: Great! I subtracted the vertices by one and now it works. Appreciate your help and fast responses. Tina -Original Message- From: Bruce Fischl [mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:37 AM

Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all error: Correcting Defect 2

2013-05-17 Thread Sudhin A. Shah
v5.0.0 On May 16, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote: Hi Sudhin what FS version are you running? Bruce On Thu, 16 May 2013, Sudhin A. Shah wrote: Hi, I got the following error: CORRECTING DEFECT 2 (vertices=30163, convex hull=6211) error in the retessellation normal vector

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
When I try to specify a different threshold using -p, mri_segment reads in the threshold as the input volume. I tried specifying the input with -i (as explained here: http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg18826.html), but now it does not recognize the -i flag. Caspar

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
what is your command line? You are probably better off setting gray_hi, gray_low, wm_hi, wm_low, etc... Bruce On Fri, 17 May 2013, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote: When I try to specify a different threshold using -p, mri_segment reads in the threshold as the input volume. I tried specifying the

Re: [Freesurfer] TRACULA outputs out of expected range

2013-05-17 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Ali - The last row of your gradient table is 0 0 0. And yet, based on the b-value table, it is supposed to correspond to a diffusion-weighted volume with b=800. So there must have been a diffusion-encoding gradient vector that was applied to acquire that volume, and you need to find out

Re: [Freesurfer] incomplete forceps

2013-05-17 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Benjamin - This means that the initial guess for the path based on the atlas average is way off, due to poor alignment between your subject and the atlas subejcts. Ways to get around this is to look into the options for registration, whether diffusion-to-anatomical or anatomical-to-atlas,

Re: [Freesurfer] DTI metrics along the whole tract?

2013-05-17 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Celine - Since 5.2, there are 2 types of measures in the pathstats.byvoxel.txt file: The value at every point along the trajectory sampled at roughly the center of the bundle, or the value at every point along the trajectory averaged over the width of the bundle. Sorry, there are no other

Re: [Freesurfer] T or Z values in QDEC

2013-05-17 Thread Douglas Greve
Hi Philip, the p-value for the cluster is not computed from a t or z. It is computed from a simulation in which random noise is generated on the surface, smoothed, clustered. The maximum cluster size is found. This is repeated 1 times to give a list of 1 cluster sizes. The p-value for

Re: [Freesurfer] tracula error

2013-05-17 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Skyler - How does the brain mask look like? Any major chunks of brain missing in the area of the left uncinate? That's the tract where the error occurs, and based on this info in the log file, I'm guessing it's a masking issue: [...] INFO: Rejected 4221 streamlines for straying off mask

Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula problem

2013-05-17 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Matt - Can you source try this on the command line: source dmrirc_53beta echo $b0mlist echo $b0plist Are these filenames correct, do these files exist? This is how you define them in your configuration file: set b0mlist = (`ls ${subjlist}/fmag/MR.* | sort -n | head

Re: [Freesurfer] data analysis

2013-05-17 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Benjamin - The tractography algorithm running under the hood hasn't changed from 5.1 to 5.2, but the way the initial guess for the path is chosen that's fed into the algorithm has changed. Also several defaults for the registration method, number of samples, number of control points have

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
mri_segment \ -v \ -fillv \ -fillbg \ -wlo 104 \ -ghi 118 \ -whi 140 \ -n 4 \ -keep \ brain.mgz wm.mgz The pial surface in the rest of the brain is ok, it is only the orbitofrontal/piriform cortex that is problematic. I now wanted to add -p 0.7. Caspar 2013/5/17 Bruce Fischl

Re: [Freesurfer] any way to parallelize Tracula?

2013-05-17 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Matt - Have you ever ran any parallelized FSL program (like bedpostx) on your SGE cluster? Our scripts have built on the FSL scripts, adding support for our PBS cluster, but in theory the SGE functionality is still there, so it should be possible to make it work. Of course practice is

[Freesurfer] Freesurfer MAC installation

2013-05-17 Thread Flavia Niccolini
Hi I am having trouble with the license file. I created in Freesurfer a file named .license but I cannot open this and copy the license. where and how should I put the 3 lines license? I tried to test my freesurfer installation with Bert but I got as answer command non found. Please help BW

Re: [Freesurfer] any way to parallelize Tracula?

2013-05-17 Thread Susan Kuo
Hi Anastasia, I apologize for jumping in here, but I have run bedpostx parallelized on a cluster. Are there files that we can modify to run the script in parallel? I noticed the '-prior' step is particularly long and cumbersome. Thank you! Susie Kuo NIH On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM,

[Freesurfer] Tracula longitudinal nan values for highest probability path

2013-05-17 Thread vbrunsch
Dear Anastasia, When running the longitudinal tracula version on our 39 subjects I found for some of them nan-values for the center_avg variables of some tracts. When I have a look at the tract distribution and the highest probability path, everything seems to be ok. However, when checking the

Re: [Freesurfer] any way to parallelize Tracula?

2013-05-17 Thread Anastasia Yendiki
Hi Susie - The underlying script doing the job submission is called fsl_sub_mgh (a modification of fsl_sub). BTW, the -prior step should be about 70% less long and cumbersome in 5.2/5.3 than it was in 5.1. Which version are you running? a.y On Fri, 17 May 2013, Susan Kuo wrote: Hi

Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer MAC installation

2013-05-17 Thread Z K
Hello Flavia, The .license file should be placed in the /Applications/freesurfer directory. To load freesurfer, you must open the terminal type the following : setenv FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer source $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.sh -Zeke On 05/17/2013 12:49 PM, Flavia

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
and what happens? Can you send the full screen output? On Fri, 17 May 2013, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote: mri_segment \ -v \ -fillv \ -fillbg \ -wlo 104 \ -ghi 118 \ -whi 140 \ -n 4 \ -keep \ brain.mgz wm.mgz The pial surface in the rest of the brain is ok, it is only the

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
filling ventricles filling basal ganglia using white lolim = 104.0 using gray hilim = 118.0 using white hilim = 140.0 running border classification 4 times preserving editing changes in output volume... using 70% threshold mri_read(): couldn't determine type of file /.../.700

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Caspar can you include the command line and all the output? Bruce On Fri, 17 May 2013, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote: filling ventricles filling basal ganglia using white lolim = 104.0 using gray hilim = 118.0 using white hilim = 140.0 running border classification 4 times preserving

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
set threshold = `echo 7/10 | bc -l` set segment_options = -v -fillv -fillbg -wlo 104 -ghi 118 -whi 140 -n 4 -p $threshold -keep mri_segment ${segment_options} \ -i brain.mgz -seg wm.mgz filling ventricles filling basal ganglia using white lolim = 104.0 using gray hilim = 118.0 using white hilim

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Matt Glasser
Your line continuation isn't working for some reason? Type the command line all on one line and see if that fixes the problem. Matt. On 5/17/13 1:37 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik cschwie...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote: set threshold = `echo 7/10 | bc -l` set segment_options = -v -fillv -fillbg -wlo

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Matt and Bruce, still the same problem. What about the fix that was mentioned in the earlier discussion? Was that not for version 4.5? Caspar 2013/5/17 Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com: Your line continuation isn't working for some reason? Type the command line all on one line and see if that

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Try leaving out the -i and -seg Those are mandatory parameters and don't need hyphens On May 17, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik cschwie...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote: Hi Matt and Bruce, still the same problem. What about the fix that was mentioned in the earlier discussion? Was that

Re: [Freesurfer] issue with pial surface in orbitofrontal cortex

2013-05-17 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Bruce, I only put them in because it was not working without them and that was the solution in the previous discussion. To summarize: Once I put in -p 0.7, mri_segment misinterprets 0.7 as the input file name, no matter whether I use -i or not. Caspar 2013/5/17 Bruce Fischl

Re: [Freesurfer] any way to parallelize Tracula?

2013-05-17 Thread Susan Kuo
Hi Anastasia, I am operating on 5.1... I'm glad to know that there is such a huge difference in versions; and that there's so much gain in upgrading. I will look at the fsl_sub_mgh script, and I'll post back what I figure out (if anything), if other people are interested. Otherwise, it's vox

[Freesurfer] weighted DTI metrics for each section

2013-05-17 Thread celine
Hi Freesurfer team I would have a question about the Tracula output. If I understand it correctly, the output of the file: pathstats.byvoxel.txt can give us a mean average of DTI metrics at each section of the tract. Is there a way to get the weighted_FA, AD RD and MD at each section? Thanks for

Re: [Freesurfer] DTI metrics along the whole tract?

2013-05-17 Thread celine
Hi Anastasia I am very sorry I didn't see this email so it may be a doubloon with my question I just post. Indeed I am interested in a profile of the DTI metrics along the tract. So if I take the average value of each section it can give me a kind of profile, and so I was just wondering if taking

Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula problem

2013-05-17 Thread Hoptman, Matthew
Hi Anastasia, To follow up, yes, those files exist. -Original Message- From: Anastasia Yendiki [mailto:ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:31 PM To: Hoptman, Matthew Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula problem Hi Matt - Can you

[Freesurfer] FW: Tracula problem

2013-05-17 Thread Hoptman, Matthew
Hi Anastasia, I'm just forwarding a modified version of the email I'd sent you earlier to the list so everyone can see it. I solved this particular problem in a new dmrirc, but it seemed that I had to modify trac-preproc to remove the ${dcmroot} in front of: infile, b0mfile and b0pfile: diff

Re: [Freesurfer] QDEC and Hippocampal subfields

2013-05-17 Thread Marcos Martins da Silva
Hi, Eugenio Thank you for your answer. Em Sex, 2013-05-17 às 07:49 -0400, Juan Eugenio Iglesias escreveu: Hi Marcos, the hippocampal subfield volumes are single values for each subject and hemisphere, so you cannot display them on the brain surface. Cheers, /Eugenio On Thu, May 16, 2013