[Freesurfer] no-octave

2014-10-12 Thread elahe' yargholi
Dears,



Mkanalysis-sess  does not accept -per-run and It looks like mkcontrast-sess
cannot initiate Matlab in the terminal.

I have installed octave and addpath and save path both

/home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer/matlab

/home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer/fsfast/toolbox



I will appreciate in advance if you possibly could help me to solve the
problem.



Best Regards,

Elahe'





Windows 7 and vmware10

Linux version:

--- freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0 

Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)

FREESURFER_HOME   /home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer

FSFAST_HOME   /home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer/fsfast

FSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii.gz

SUBJECTS_DIR  /home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer/subjects

MNI_DIR   /home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer/mni

FSL_DIR   /usr/local/fsl



Current working directory:

*pwd*

*/home/fsl*

*which freesurfer*

*/home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer/**bin/freesurfer*

*which mkanalysis-sess*

*/home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/mkanalysis-sess*

*which mkcontrast-sess*

*/home/fsl/Desktop/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/mkcontrast-sess*



Command lines:

*mkdir FIVA*

*cd FIVA*

*mkdir MT_Localizer*

*cd MT_Localizer*

*mkdir subj1sess1 *

*cd subj1sess1*

*unpacksdcmdir -src /home/fsl/Desktop/MTLocalizer/IMAGES -targ . -run 2
bold nii f.nii -run 3 bold nii f.nii -run 4 bold nii f.nii -run 5 bold nii
f.nii -run 6 bold nii f.nii -run 7 bold nii f.nii -run 8 bold nii f.nii
-run 9 bold nii f.nii -run 10 bold nii f.nii -run 11 bold nii f.nii*

Within subj1sess1, made a text file named subjectname, and wrote subj001
(the name of my anatomical subject).

*cd ..*

*preproc-sess -s subj1sess1 -fsd bold -surface self lhrh -mni305 -fwhm 5
-per-run*

*plot-twf-sess -s subj1sess1 -fsd bold -mc*

*tkregister-sess -s subj1sess1 -fsd bold -per-run -bbr-sum*

*tkregister-sess -s subj1sess1 -fsd bold -per-run*

 For each run, a paradigm file (paradigm.par) is included.

*mkanalysis-sess -a MT.lh -surface self lh -fsd bold -fwhm 5 -event-related
-paradigm paradigm.par -nconditions 2 -refeventdur 16 -TR 2 **-nskip 4
**-polyfit
2 -spmhrf 0 -mcextreg -per-run*

*'ERROR flag -per-run unrecognized'*

It does not accept -per-run so I omitted that.

*mkanalysis-sess -a MT.lh -surface self lh -fsd bold -fwhm 5 -event-related
-paradigm paradigm.par -nconditions 2 -refeventdur 16 -TR 2 -nskip 4
-polyfit 2 -spmhrf 0 -mcextreg*

*mkanalysis-sess -a MT.rh -surface self rh -fsd bold -fwhm 5 -event-related
-paradigm paradigm.par -nconditions 2 -refeventdur 16 -TR 2 -nskip 4
-polyfit 2 -spmhrf 0 -mcextreg *



*mkcontrast-sess -analysis MT.lh -contrast M_S -a 2 -c 1   *

Non-Null Conditions

INFO: Found 1 Delays

Condition Weights: -1. 1.

mkcontrast -anadir MT.lh -wcond -1.
1. -sumconds -o MT.lh/12.mat -wdelay 1 -no-octave

  $Id: mkcontrast,v 1.10 2010/07/16 16:20:10 greve Exp $

cmtxfile  MT.lh/12.mat

nconds2,  wcond  -1. 1.

ndelays   1, wdelay 1

ndelays   1, wpsa

sumconds  1

sumdelays 0

nircorr   0

TER   0.05

rdelta

rtau

ERROR running mkcontrast

mkcontrast -anadir MT.lh -wcond -1.
1. -sumconds -o MT.lh/12.mat -wdelay 1 -no-octave
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Re: [Freesurfer] cortical surface area measurement and vertex-wise analysis

2014-10-12 Thread Anderson M. Winkler
Hi Emma,

Could you clarify what would be the disadvantages that you've heard about?
I ask because we've studied and tried to clarify many aspects of the
analysis of surface area in this paper
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811912002996. Maybe
if there's something not covered there we could try to comment then.

Thanks!

All the best,

Anderson


On 10 October 2014 22:19, Emma Thompson vonecono...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Freesurfers,
 I recently heard that there are several disadvantages to using a measure
 of cortical surface area in Freesurfer, specifically due to conducting a
 vertex-wise analysis. Can someone help me understand why a measure of
 surface area using this approach might be flawed? Thanks!

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Re: [Freesurfer] cortical surface area measurement and vertex-wise analysis

2014-10-12 Thread Anderson M. Winkler
Hi Donna,

In that same paper we also comment on the differences between
expansion/contraction and absolute areal measurements assessed at each face
of the surface (i.e., facewise), which can, after interpolation, be
converted to vertexwise to facilitate analysis using current tools (e.g.,
mri_glmfit or qdec), without loss of areal quantities.

All the best,

Anderson


On 11 October 2014 04:05, Donna Dierker do...@brainvis.wustl.edu wrote:

 Hi Emma,

 I might not be the only one who is unsure what you mean by a vertex-wise
 cortical surface area measure.  Do you mean something like what is
 illustrated in figures 2 and 3 here:

 http://www.pnas.org/content/107/29/13135.figures-only

 ... which is similar, but not identical to the local gyrification index?

 If so, would you use this measure on surfaces before or after registration
 to a target atlas?

 Donna


 On Oct 10, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Emma Thompson vonecono...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Freesurfers,
  I recently heard that there are several disadvantages to using a measure
 of cortical surface area in Freesurfer, specifically due to conducting a
 vertex-wise analysis. Can someone help me understand why a measure of
 surface area using this approach might be flawed? Thanks!



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Re: [Freesurfer] v5.1 control point mri_ca_normalize bug

2014-10-12 Thread Nick Schmansky, MGH
correct (the thing to do is comment-out the addition of the control
points).

n.

On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 17:05 -0400, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 I don't think you want to run with -nocanorm. Just commenting out the 
 addition of the  -f $ControlPointsFile should be sufficient. Right Nick?
 On 
 Wed, 8 Oct 2014, Marx, Gabe wrote:
 
  Hi Bruce,
 
  I appreciate the response!
 
  I am sorry, I am a bit confused. The release notes state:
 
  An option is to disable the running of mri_ca_normalize when re-running 
  the -autorecon2 or -autorecon2-cp stage after adding control points by 
  adding the flag -nocanorm to the end of recon-all. We will continue to 
  investigate a more automated solution to detection of this problem. The 
  more permanent workaround for v5.1 users is to edit their recon-all script 
  making the following change, which will disable usage of control points 
  with ca_norm:
 
  # find these lines:
  set cmd = (mri_ca_normalize)
  if($UseControlPoints)  set cmd = ($cmd -f $ControlPointsFile)
 
  # and comment-out the second line like this:
  set cmd = (mri_ca_normalize)
  #if($UseControlPoints)  set cmd = ($cmd -f $ControlPointsFile)
 
  # then re-run your subjects with the flags: -autorecon2 -autorecon3 
  -clean-aseg
 
  Are you saying the -nocanorm flag will result in inaccurate data?
 
  Thanks!
  Gabe
 
  -Original Message-
  From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
  [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl
  Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 8:12 AM
  To: Freesurfer support list
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] v5.1 control point mri_ca_normalize bug
 
  Hi Gabe
 
  this wasn't really a bug per-se, just induced some behavior that people 
  didn't like. You can't skip the mri_ca_normalize step or the aseg won't be 
  accurate. The aseg patch I believe just starts autorecon2-cp after the aseg 
  hs been created, but Nick or Zeke can correct me if I'm wrong.
 
  cheers
  Bruce
 
 
 
  On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Marx, Gabe wrote:
 
 
  Hello Freesurfer experts,
 
   
 
  I had a question regarding the v5.1 control point mri_ca_normalize
  bug. I read the release notes and know that this bug can be worked
  around by adding the –nocanorm flag to my recon-all however I have
  become worried about the ramifications of skipping mri_ca_normalize in my 
  pipeline.
  Would someone be able to give me a better description as to what
  mri_ca_normalize is doing and what I am sacrificing by taking it out
  of my pipeline? Furthermore, in regards to the patch for the recon-all
  script to fix this bug, what is the patch doing exactly?  If I had
  some data in which I used the –nocanorm flag and other data in which I
  used the patch would I still be able to make valid analysis if I merged 
  them?
  Would there be significant inconsistencies?
 
   
 
  Thanks!
 
   
 
  Best,
 
  Gabe
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] skewed CT viewed in tkregister2

2014-10-12 Thread Borzello, Mia
Hi, 

Any insight on this problem I'm having with tkregister2? I haven't been able to 
resolve this yet. My original posting is below with the output from bugr. 

Thanks! 
Mia

From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Borzello, Mia
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:08 AM
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: [Freesurfer] skewed CT viewed in tkregister2

Hi Freesurfers

I'm having trouble viewing a CT in tkregister2. Here is the output from bugr:

FREESURFER_HOME: /usr/local/freesurfer/stable5_3_0

Build stamp: freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-v5.3.0-20130514

RedHat release: CentOS release 6.5 (Final)

Kernel info: Linux 2.6.32-431.20.3.el6.x86_64 x86_64

NMR Center info (/space/freesurfer exists):

  machine: huygens

  SUBJECTS_DIR: /autofs/space/huygens_001/users/mia/subjects

  PWD: /autofs/space/huygens_001/users/mia/subjects/BI20v2_SurferOutput/mri

  ssh huygens
  setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /autofs/space/huygens_001/users/mia/subjects
  cd /autofs/space/huygens_001/users/mia/subjects/BI20v2_SurferOutput/mri


1. BI20
2. tkregister2 --s BI20v2_SurferOutput --mov ct.mgz --reg spm.reg.dat --surf 
orig
3. the coronal/saggital/horizontal views were skewed
4.attached.

Thanks a lot,
Mia

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