Re: [Freesurfer] FSFAST, Beta values and Percent Signal Change questions

2018-04-17 Thread Douglas Greve



On 4/16/18 11:56 AM, Sarah Cole wrote:

Hi Doug,

I need your recommendations on two topics. I really appreciate your help.

1.) I have two runs of the same experiment, each for about 12 minutes. 
These 2 runs are different only in the presentation order of the 
stimuli. I also have one localizer session which first, I calculated 
my contrasts in it, found the active voxels with positive values, and 
made a mask of those voxels. Then, mapped the masks on those 2 runs 
and got the raw data within those voxels. So far, so good. Now, I am 
looking at the Beta values in these 2 runs for those active voxels, 
they are very different from each other. For example, in the first 
run, they are mostly positive but in the second run, they are mostly 
negative. My intuition was that they should be in the same ballpark. I 
cannot make sense of this. Do you have any suggestions on why this is 
happening?
Hard to say without a lot more details. Is this all happening on the 
fsaverage surface? Is your localizer the same paradigm as the two task 
runs? When you look at the maps of the 2 task runs, do they look the 
same? Is your mask in a region where the task has activation?



2.) To calculate the % signal change, is it ok to pick the baseline 
whatever is suitable to my research question. For example, if I need 
to know the % signal change relative to*the average signal in the 
first TR of a specific block*, can I use that as a baseline? Or does 
it always need to be the rest or the mean?
I'm not sure there is a hard and fast way to do this. Usually you want 
to make sure that there is no task in the baseline. But the task is such 
a small part of the overall signal that I don't think it matters.



Thank you so much and looking forward to hearing from you.

Sarah


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[Freesurfer] FSFAST, Beta values and Percent Signal Change questions

2018-04-16 Thread Sarah Cole
Hi Doug,

I need your recommendations on two topics. I really appreciate your help.

1.) I have two runs of the same experiment, each for about 12 minutes.
These 2 runs are different only in the presentation order of the stimuli. I
also have one localizer session which first, I calculated my contrasts in
it, found the active voxels with positive values, and made a mask of those
voxels. Then, mapped the masks on those 2 runs and got the raw data within
those voxels. So far, so good. Now, I am looking at the Beta values in
these 2 runs for those active voxels, they are very different from each
other. For example, in the first run, they are mostly positive but in the
second run, they are mostly negative. My intuition was that they should be
in the same ballpark. I cannot make sense of this. Do you have any
suggestions on why this is happening?


2.) To calculate the % signal change, is it ok to pick the baseline
whatever is suitable to my research question. For example, if I need to
know the % signal change relative to* the average signal in the first TR of
a specific block*, can I use that as a baseline? Or does it always need to
be the rest or the mean?


Thank you so much and looking forward to hearing from you.

Sarah
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