Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-05 Thread seven
On Jun 5, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Michael Collins wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Matthew Lockwood matthew.lockw...@gmail.com wrote: That would involve me learning a totally new framework. It'll not the hardest code I'll ever write by far, so I'm okay coding it up on my own. However,

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-05 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hello wasim, GWT will help me about Accessibility, is very very accessible tel me about how i can host GWT application thanks Wasim Baig wrote: Just to chime in, perhaps GWT might be a good framework ... -wasim

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-05 Thread Matthew Lockwood
Thanks for all this. What I meant to respond with before I passed out asleep was: The framework doesn't matter that much. We've all got looped on this issue. Everything that is done has to add value to the end user. The framework is far down at the bottom of the list of things that provides

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-05 Thread Darren Schreiber
_ From: seven [mailto:dujinf...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:26 AM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation On Jun 5, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Michael Collins wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Matthew Lockwood matthew.lockw

[Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hello my friends please i need any Web FrontEnd for FS bicose i'm blind i'm using a screen reader. this screen reader is for windows only also is don't support a consol interface only graphical interface and i have a CentOs4.7 Box that contin my FS installed but i need to manage it (extentions,

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
I'm about to start creating one. I think FS needs a UI comparable to FreePBX or similar. It's the next project on my list. It would certainly be a boost to the FS project and user acceptance. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Meftah Tayeb tayeb.mef...@gmail.com wrote: hello my friends please i

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hello, please: * in each programing language you want to start this project? * how i can contribute to it? thanks Matthew Lockwood wrote: I'm about to start creating one. I think FS needs a UI comparable to FreePBX or similar. It's the next project on my list. It would certainly be a

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
This may raise eyebrows, but I was thinking about using the dotnet/mono framework. I'm coming from 10+ years in Windows, and have blindly followed MS technologies through my career, so I'm very comfortable with C#. There are inherent issues with this approach though. The other alternative is PHP,

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hello i'm also a windows Developer / microsoft technologie user i use.Net/Mono/... #Develope, SQLite and ... are you in irc now? my nick: DelphiWorld please message me. thanks Matthew Lockwood wrote: This may raise eyebrows, but I was thinking about using the dotnet/mono framework. I'm coming

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
KeeblerElfMatt ... I'll be there in a minute On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Meftah Tayeb tayeb.mef...@gmail.com wrote: hello i'm also a windows Developer / microsoft technologie user i use.Net/Mono/... #Develope, SQLite and ... are you in irc now? my nick: DelphiWorld please message me.

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Raymond Chandler
I think you're more likely to get more help if you write it in PHP or ruby. PHP seems to be the open-source web language of choice by most, but ruby/rails has been gaining a lot of ground, so either would probably be a safe bet. -Ray Matthew Lockwood wrote: KeeblerElfMatt ... I'll be there

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hello yes, PHP/Ruby is the best Web Scripting Languages but each one in the World have there knoledge base limitation thanks Raymond Chandler wrote: I think you're more likely to get more help if you write it in PHP or ruby. PHP seems to be the open-source web language of choice by most, but

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
There are two areas of help I'll need for sure: 1) Understanding certain nuances of FreeSWITCH and how to make certain things work (there are things I'll need to implement that aren't in my implementation) 2) User testing and lots and lots of feedback. I was planning to initially adopt the

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
Ray - The other issue is my competence in those scripting languages; I'm very competent in C# and the .NET framework. I'll have a substantial amount of downtime while I'm on several long-haul flights in the near future, so I can devote a good amount of time to getting this done. Mefta - I'm in

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hi, yes, i'm here to help you developing this Web GUI bicose only WikiPBX is here now and is not easy to install i hop that you start one with me thanks Matthew Lockwood wrote: There are two areas of help I'll need for sure: 1) Understanding certain nuances of FreeSWITCH and how to make certain

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hello please send to me a private Message (DelphiWorld) i can't find your Nick name thanks Matthew Lockwood wrote: Ray - The other issue is my competence in those scripting languages; I'm very competent in C# and the .NET framework. I'll have a substantial amount of downtime while I'm on

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hello, .Net is no only for windows but Linux also using MONO and #develope is open source thanks Brian West wrote: ACK!~ :P Don't copy, be original... thats how you win! /b On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Matthew Lockwood wrote: I was planning to initially adopt the FreePBX look. If there's a

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
An slightly more graphical install wizard would actually be useful too. This could be extended into something that could install and configure FreeSWITCH and install the GUI all at the same time. Talk about lowering the barrier to entry! Brian - you're completely right. This idea has only been

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hellok, do you need a graphical installer? i'm here to create it for the community! please tel me how i start a new FS subproject thanks Matthew Lockwood wrote: An slightly more graphical install wizard would actually be useful too. This could be extended into something that could install and

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Collins
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Matthew Lockwood matthew.lockw...@gmail.com wrote: An slightly more graphical install wizard would actually be useful too. This could be extended into something that could install and configure FreeSWITCH and install the GUI all at the same time. Talk about

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Collins
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Matthew Lockwood matthew.lockw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to start creating one. I think FS needs a UI comparable to FreePBX or similar. It's the next project on my list. It would certainly be a boost to the FS project and user acceptance. Be sure to check

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Brian West
Its called marchitecture! /b On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Michael Collins wrote: well, the numbers are more like 98.5% marketing in that case. :) Brian West br...@freeswitch.org -- Meet us at ClueCon! http://www.cluecon.com ___

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
That would be incredible of you. Let's lower the barrier to entry to total noobs! The simpler we can make it the more successful the project will be. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Meftah Tayeb tayeb.mef...@gmail.com wrote: hellok, do you need a graphical installer? i'm here to create it

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
LOL. I'd rather have a mediocre product and excellent marketing than the other way around; building a better mouse trap and sitting back is totally ineffective. A second GUI wouldn't be a bad thing. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Michael Collins m...@freeswitch.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 4,

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Brian West
I could agree the community needs to come together and JUST DO IT... but I can't count the times I have seen this thread before. /b On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Matthew Lockwood wrote: LOL. I'd rather have a mediocre product and excellent marketing than the other way around; building a

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
You're very, very right. Okay, so I'm going to need a web designer in the community to work with! Given that this idea has only been floating around in my mind for 48 hours, I've barely thought about it. Although this is a FOSS project, I should apply all the rules of business I've been

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
Okay, I'm going to schedule in a start date of the 16th. This will have my company backing it so it will be done! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Brian West br...@freeswitch.org wrote: I could agree the community needs to come together and JUST DO IT... but I can't count the times I have seen

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
Okay, leave this with me - I'll bring this together and do what's required. I'll see if I can squeeze it in ahead of schedule, but don't count on it. Also expect pleas for help at some stage, and I'll need a UI developer to create an awesome interface. You'll all be hearing from me shortly! M

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Collins
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Matthew Lockwood matthew.lockw...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, leave this with me - I'll bring this together and do what's required. I'll see if I can squeeze it in ahead of schedule, but don't count on it. Also expect pleas for help at some stage, and I'll need a UI

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
Awesome :-D I need some thinking time to come up with a strategy, but I'll set up a project site soon so we can all collaborate on this. M On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Michael Collins m...@freeswitch.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Matthew Lockwood matthew.lockw...@gmail.com

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Darin Weeks
I'm game to help out. I have product experience with UI and stuff... (but please don't think that I'm a business wonk). As a new freeswitch user it might be slightly harder to work with me rather than someone who knows the nuts and bolts of the system, but on the other hand, my n00b status might

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
Okay great. What I'll be doing is creating the back-end. When the project kicks off, it would be far better for someone else to design a pretty and useable UI on top of that. You'd not really need to know much about the inner workings of FS. I'll probably just end up knocking up a fugly unstyled

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Raymond Chandler
we created a #freeswitch-gui channel for talks such as these... I'm the only one idling in it most of the time, though :-( -Ray Michael Collins wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Matthew Lockwood matthew.lockw...@gmail.com mailto:matthew.lockw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread EdPimentl
I would like to see it, and you would get many more volunteers if it would jquery/mootools UI with DJANGO backend. Or a MOZILLA XUL Or a DOJO APP Or a FLEX/AIR That would be different and unique -E ___ Freeswitch-users mailing list

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Lockwood
That would involve me learning a totally new framework. It'll not the hardest code I'll ever write by far, so I'm okay coding it up on my own. However, I definitely need a lot of help from fabulous designers to actually make the interface pretty and useable. Plus, I'm only one person and will need

Re: [Freeswitch-users] WikiPBX Installation

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Collins
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Matthew Lockwood matthew.lockw...@gmail.com wrote: That would involve me learning a totally new framework. It'll not the hardest code I'll ever write by far, so I'm okay coding it up on my own. However, I definitely need a lot of help from fabulous designers to