Re: [Freetel-codec2] Improving quality of Codec2 playback

2019-09-10 Thread David Rowe
Hi Adrian,

Yes quite a few Ham using FreeDV use filtering and EQ to improve the
speech quality, e.g. using external EQ boxes.  We also have a microphone
and speaker equaliser in FreeDV, plus some noise reduction.  More
recently, I have been working on automatic equalisation of input speech
to improve vector quantisation of Codec 2 700C:

  http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6860

BTW there are many Codec 2 modes, but the ones in widespread use in
FreeDV modes are:

FreeDV 1600: Codec 2 1300
FreeDV 700C/700D: Codec 2 700C

I listened to you sample but am unsure if it was before or after your
processing, Do you have A/B samples to compare?

Cheers,
David

On 10/09/19 21:25, Adrian Musceac wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> I think I can slightly improve the quality of playback of Codec2
> samples with some rather computationally cheap methods. This might
> be of use to you for FreeDV.
> Please have a listen at the sample attached, which is Codec2 at 1400
> bits/s.
> Link included in case the attachment doesn't go through:
> http://qradiolink.org/images/codec2_1400.wav
> The trick is a little filtering, emphasis and a little audio
> compression applied.
> I have some pathological Codec2 samples recorded with my voice that
> are really improved with this method. If you want I can send them to
> you.
> Noisy samples have a little problem with the compressor driving too
> early and bringing out the noise, so I think I can still do some
> adjusting there.
> Codec2 700B is different though, I have to adjust the filters and
> emphasis because I get some aliasing of higher frequencies.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> It seems my previous message got stuck because of the attachment, so I'm
> including just the link to the Codec2 sample.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Improving quality of Codec2 playback

2019-09-10 Thread Ammar Ahmad Khan
Good work Adrian... I have heard that people have used codec2 to go to 450
bits/sec too... That's the reason I praisa David Rowe alot... His open
source work has been a gift for many researchers to play their role in
innovations..

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 4:56 PM Adrian Musceac  wrote:

>
> Hi David,
>> I think I can slightly improve the quality of playback of Codec2 samples
>> with some rather computationally cheap methods. This might be of use to you
>> for FreeDV.
>> Please have a listen at the sample attached, which is Codec2 at 1400
>> bits/s.
>> Link included in case the attachment doesn't go through:
>> http://qradiolink.org/images/codec2_1400.wav
>> The trick is a little filtering, emphasis and a little audio compression
>> applied.
>> I have some pathological Codec2 samples recorded with my voice that are
>> really improved with this method. If you want I can send them to you.
>> Noisy samples have a little problem with the compressor driving too early
>> and bringing out the noise, so I think I can still do some adjusting there.
>> Codec2 700B is different though, I have to adjust the filters and
>> emphasis because I get some aliasing of higher frequencies.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>
> It seems my previous message got stuck because of the attachment, so I'm
> including just the link to the Codec2 sample.
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Improving quality of Codec2 playback

2019-09-10 Thread Adrian Musceac
> Hi David,
> I think I can slightly improve the quality of playback of Codec2 samples
> with some rather computationally cheap methods. This might be of use to you
> for FreeDV.
> Please have a listen at the sample attached, which is Codec2 at 1400
> bits/s.
> Link included in case the attachment doesn't go through:
> http://qradiolink.org/images/codec2_1400.wav
> The trick is a little filtering, emphasis and a little audio compression
> applied.
> I have some pathological Codec2 samples recorded with my voice that are
> really improved with this method. If you want I can send them to you.
> Noisy samples have a little problem with the compressor driving too early
> and bringing out the noise, so I think I can still do some adjusting there.
> Codec2 700B is different though, I have to adjust the filters and emphasis
> because I get some aliasing of higher frequencies.
>
> Adrian
>

It seems my previous message got stuck because of the attachment, so I'm
including just the link to the Codec2 sample.
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