Re: [FRIAM] US intelligence agencies discover blogs and wikis

2006-12-07 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Phil Henshaw wrote: The ideal product of democracy is decision making that reflects a whole understanding of things by integrating all points of view. Trouble develops when the points of view that believe in suppressing all others take over. I have my doubts about the evolutionary

[FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

2006-12-07 Thread Mike Oliker
The Genius of James Madison was to see that a large country with many factions would be freer from factionalism that a small country would be. The factions would cancel each other out. Factionalism was the greatest threat to democracy that the founders saw. Much the same applies to corporations

Re: [FRIAM] help please: networking software question

2006-12-07 Thread Nick Frost
Giles Bowkett wrote: The ideal solution would be something incredibly simple, where a skull would only become alerted to the wand's existence if the wand was in a particular range of X feet, with X ideally being a small number like 5, and further, where the wand's signal could only be picked

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

2006-12-07 Thread Phil Henshaw
Whether a 'marketplace' for ideas works efficiently or not, or simply supresses any innovation departing from the trusted standards, for example, is not easy to assure. Take the global expectation that multiplying the rate of economic expansion forever assures prosperity. Everything in

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

2006-12-07 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Mike Oliker wrote: The Genius of James Madison was to see that a large country with many factions would be freer from factionalism that a small country would be. Seems to me what matters is the number of truly independent factions an individual can be affiliated. A company like Nokia, for

Re: [FRIAM] The yin and yang of numbers across cultures

2006-12-07 Thread David Breecker
MessageExactly. I've always thought numbers are just another of our perceptual mechanisms (albeit an incredibly elegant one) that only captures part of the magic that is actually out there. Interestingly, this maps well to the rainbow idea that was on this thread: the colors are continous,

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Lowenberg
I'm usually a lurker here, rather than poster. Glad to see Doug participating from afar. I think we give all to easy lip service to complex subjects like 'democracy'; or 'sustainability'. Democracy may be social ideal. The reality in varying degrees around the world is the process of

[FRIAM] The Mad Scientists' Clubhouse

2006-12-07 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
fyi, http://www.madscientistsclubhouse.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

[FRIAM] ** short notice ** Tomorrow 1:00p: Lee Hoffer and Joshua Thorp: Illicit Drug Markets

2006-12-07 Thread Stephen Guerin
Tomorrow Fri, December 8 note time 1:00p For those that couldn't make Iain SFI talk, he's agreed to give us an encore at our office. I *highly* recommend attending. Iain D. Couzin Department of Zoology, University of Oxford, Oxford, UK Department of Ecology and Evolutionary

[FRIAM] Seymour Papert Gravely Injured in Motorbike Accident (fwd)

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Lowenberg
From Andy Carvin: Hi everyone, I've just received the terrible news that education technology pioneer Seymour Papert has been gravely injured in an accident in Hanoi. He was attending a conference there and was hit by a motorbike, sustaining significant head trauma. The boston globe has a story

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

2006-12-07 Thread PPARYSKI
Historically it is ironic that the most democratic countries seem to be the most homogenous and mono cultural, e.g. the Scandinavian countries. Perhaps, as Jared Diamond concluded, the most important characteristic of a successful society is its ability to choose, democratically or

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

2006-12-07 Thread Alfredo
Democracy is just an hypocrite and sophist instrument of capitalists but we don't know something better. Not yet. I always vote, I respect Laws and Constitution but only because society needs an order. Alfredo Mike Oliker wrote: The Genius of James Madison was to see that a large country

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy and evolution

2006-12-07 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Phil Henshaw wrote: The fact that we consider what someone else has to say as meaningless because we don't hear the meaning is a defect in our upbringing in one way, that no one did for us the hard work of erasing our 'naive reality' of assuming the world around us to be what it appears to