Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Is an organism a manifold? Do the parts have to be heterogeneous? Dictionary definition would seem to suggest so. Thus a regiment would not be a manifold (except insofar as it contains soldiers of different ranks). n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Cla

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Robert Cordingley
So to return to the forest question... Sherwood Forest is I presume another manifold. I know it is now discontiguous, separated by urban development and such (perhaps Epping Forest is too). Is it still a manifold? I could ask the same question about the British Isles: lots of little places,

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Douglas Roberts
I suspect we still have a ways to go before we exhaust the manifold definitions... --Doug On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:40 PM, russell standish wrote: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:51:38PM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > This is why I like to ask questions of PEOPLE: because when you get > > confl

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread russell standish
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:51:38PM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > This is why I like to ask questions of PEOPLE: because when you get > conflicting answers, you have somewhere to go to try and resolve the > conflict. > > So I have three different definitions of a manifold: > > 1. A patchwor

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Nicholas Thompson
This is why I like to ask questions of PEOPLE: because when you get conflicting answers, you have somewhere to go to try and resolve the conflict. So I have three different definitions of a manifold: 1. A patchwork made of many patches 2. The structure of a manifold is encoded by a collection

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
A manifold can be described as a complex patchwork made of many patches. If we try to describe self-consciousness as a manifold then we get - the patch of a strange loop associated with insight in confusion (according to Douglas Hofstadter) - the patch of an imaginary "center of narrative g

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Roger Critchlow
A manifold is something that can't be a function because it is multi-valued where a function must be single-valued. A circle, the set of points which satisfy the equation x^2 + y^2 = r^2, is a manifold of points because there are two values of y that satisfy the equation for each value of x, -r <

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Jochen Fromm
This is an interesting use of "manifold". In mathematics, a manifold has a well-defined meaning. The structure of a manifold is encoded by a collection of charts that form an atlas. A chart is a mapping between the manifold and a simple (euclidean) space, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifol

[FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Nicholas Thompson
I wonder if anybody has any comment to make on the following passage from EB holt? (Remember, I am the guy who tends to ask questions of PEOPLE when he should look them up, so feel free to ignore me here.) Holt (1914) writes: "If one is walking in the woods, and remarks that "All this is Epp

Re: [FRIAM] WordPress and collaborative mathematics

2009-08-04 Thread Owen Densmore
Its interesting how many of the same concepts and people have been coming up lately. Tim Gowers and his brilliant Very Short Introduction. His video of his keynote at the Millennium conference. Then he pops up in a collaboration with Terence Tao, who also presented there. (He is definite