Re: [FRIAM] 3D Modeling Software

2009-09-14 Thread Rikus Combrinck
How about Blender? http://www.blender.org/ I've played with it occasionally over a period of several years. I don't have any experience with commercial alternatives, so can't comment on how it compares. But it satisfies your stated requirements, it's free, has got very active user and

Re: [FRIAM] 3D Modeling Software

2009-09-14 Thread M Suazo
Have you given Google SketchUp http://sketchup.google.com/ a look? On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: I'm looking at 3D modeling software, and would like help deciding on which system to use. A few requirements: - Not too expensive .. $150 fine, but

[FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
All, I would like to appeal for some help from The List with the chapter we are reading this week in the Emergence Seminar. One of the central assertions of the author is that quantum mechanics put the British Emergentists out of business by making configurational forces seem unlikely. He

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Russ Abbott
That's the problem I have with taking historical ideas seriously. Why should we care whether whatever the British Emergentists thought makes sense now? What we should care about is what does make sense now? Of course, as I mentioned to you (Nick) privately, my wife, who works in Early Modern

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Russ, To me, the mark of an educated person is the ability to hold different views of the same subject in mind at the same time. I think our discussions on this list have tended to lack depth, in the sense that everybody has their opinion but has grave difficulty representing with any

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Roger Critchlow
As I read it, the issue isn't whether structures and/or configurations are/aren't important, the question is whether they operate according to emergent or resultant rule sets. The Emergentists were betting heavily on the emergent rule set. They believed that the variety of chemistry couldn't

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread russell standish
From the text below, it is apparent that British emergence is not the same beast as what we call emergence today. Those very configurational forces you mention are precisely what I mean by emergent phenomena, which is entirely consistent with how the term is used in the complex systems literature

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Owen Densmore
[This is an email I sent to the reading group. It's title was: Emergence, Chaos Envy, and Formalization of Complexity I think that, rather than worrying about the existing concepts of emergence, we would be far better off looking at the history of Chaos and how they achieved amazing

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Russ II, One of the things I hope to find out by discussing actual texts is whether it IS the same as vitalism. I don't think so. Another reason to spend a week on the british emergentists is because of their partial ressemblence to Authors like Juarerro and Rosen whom some of us do take

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Russ Abbott
Owen, Here's how I would start. I'm not scientist enough to know what 'configuration physics' or 'configuration chemistry' means. My guess is that it means something like a structured collection of matter where the structure itself is important. One of my friends likes to talk about that sort of

[FRIAM] FW: Re: Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Oh, gosh! I hope it was clear to every reader that when I wrote: I think our discussions on this list have tended to lack depth, in the sense that everybody has their opinion but has grave difficulty representing with any fidelity the opinion with which they disagree. that I was

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread russell standish
Oh, dear, it seems I've been relegated to the Russ II position now :). Serves me right, I guess. I still think meaning is essential. The reason why something is structured rather than unstructured is that the structure means something to somebody. And for measuring this, I don't think we can go

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence

2009-09-14 Thread Russ Abbott
Dear Russ S, I'm not sure I follow the meaning point. Biological organisms are structured in important (emergent) ways, but how do you attach meaning to that? -- Russ A On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM, russell standish r.stand...@unsw.edu.auwrote: Oh, dear, it seems I've been relegated to