Re: [FRIAM] flocking windmills

2009-11-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
Roger Critchlow wrote: Well, I better keep my voodoo fluid dynamics speculations to myself in the future. Nah. The venue for objection was the APS meeting in Minneapolis... FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] Some Facts about Arrays!

2009-11-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
plissa...@comcast.net wrote: There is NO SUCH THING AS A BOW WAVE in incompressible continuum flows. Wind farms only involve incompressible flows? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St.

Re: [FRIAM] Facebook: OK, now what!?

2009-11-26 Thread Owen Densmore
I'm surprised at the creative uses made of the various new Public Services like Facebook, Wave, Twitter, Google Apps/Docs/Calendar, Blogger/Wordpress.com, Wikis, .. and so on. One instance is in mathematics. Sagemath: http://www.sagemath.org/ uses several:

[FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Stephen Guerin
Hey, I was browsing around after watching the documentary Welcome to Macintosh and came across this old Rolling Stone interview photo of the early Mac team. Owen is having fun in the mid row. Cool! :-) http://myoldmac.net/cgi-data/gal/displayimage.php?album=8pos=18 -S --- -. . ..-. .. ...

[FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread plissaman
I didn't know that wind tur bines experienced compressible flow.  This makes all my papers and books on the subject wrong, although the operating turbines designed by my codes don't seem to know this!   I would like to correct them.  Can anyone provide reports on compressible flow in wind

Re: [FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
plissa...@comcast.net wrote: I didn't know that wind turbines experienced compressible flow. This makes all my papers and books on the subject wrong, although the operating turbines designed by my codes don't seem to know this! Is it that compressible flow is a small influence, or not

Re: [FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Douglas Roberts
The ravages of age. Which one is he? On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Stephen Guerin stephen.gue...@redfish.com wrote: Hey, I was browsing around after watching the documentary Welcome to Macintosh and came across this old Rolling Stone interview photo of the early Mac team. Owen is having

Re: [FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Owen Densmore
I'm the baby. .. oops .. no, the far right middle row, next to Bill. -- Owen On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: The ravages of age. Which one is he? On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Stephen Guerin stephen.gue...@redfish.com wrote: Hey, I was browsing around after

Re: [FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Douglas Roberts
Ah, the Gene Shallot look-alike! --Doug On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: I'm the baby. .. oops .. no, the far right middle row, next to Bill. -- Owen On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: The ravages of age. Which one is he?

Re: [FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Ok. It's unfair for your smart people to tease us dumb ones. Is air a compressible medium or not? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City

Re: [FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Jochen Fromm
Cool, do you remember the time with Andy Hertzfeld, Bill Atkinson and Steve Jobs? Recently I read one of the biographies about Steve Jobs (Icon from Jeffrey Young and William L. Simon). Both Hertzfeld and Atkinson are mentioned in the book, but no word of Owen Densmore. They must have missed

Re: [FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread qef
Nick -- Sure. Think about tires. Air is compressed in them. By the way, those who advocate filling tires with Nitrogen sometimes conveniently forget that our atmosphere is already 78% Nitrogen. It makes a slight advantage in racing tires, but most of us run with underinflated tires anyway.

Re: [FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Thanks for the heads up. I will be sure not to mention those guys in my biography of Owen. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City

Re: [FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Owen Densmore
On Nov 26, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: Cool, do you remember the time with Andy Hertzfeld, Bill Atkinson and Steve Jobs? Yup. Interesting history. Jobs goes to PARC and is blown away. Starts the Lisa project (precursor to Mac). Lots of Xerox folks went to Apple, me included

Re: [FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Jochen Fromm
Here is another picture http://www.folklore.org/ProjectView.py?project=Macintoshgallery=1 Somehow Steve Jobs got all the money, Andy Hertzfeld and Bill Atkinson got all the glory, and you got all the hard work? What a distribution. My first task in my first job after university was working