[FRIAM] Induction

2012-03-24 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
While we wait for Doug... The problem with induction is that the only good evidence for it is that several times in the past we have used the inductive method and it has worked. If you really gathered all the evidence, you would see such a strong trend that the logical conclusion would seem

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-24 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Thanks, I liked this other one too. http://www.naute.com/jokes/atheist.phtml On 3/24/12, Robert J. Cordingley rob...@cirrillian.com wrote: Then there's the story of the Scottish atheist fishing in Lock Ness when suddenly his boat was tossed in the air. The fisherman gazed in fright at the

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-24 Thread Douglas Roberts
I'll be happy, perhaps even thrilled to share my thoughts on induction, Nick. First, however, we need to narrow the question down to be a bit more specific. The word *induction* has many applications and connotations. Here are a few: In *biology and chemistry*: - Inductive effect

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-24 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Robert, I think that's the best I've ever seen. Thanks, Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:14 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re:

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-24 Thread Douglas Roberts
While we're waiting for Nick, I'll go ahead and share one of my favorite examples of forced induction: http://www.coolthings.com/hot-rod-hauler/ --Doug On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: BTW, I'm especially partial to* forced induction*, so I'm hoping

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-24 Thread Douglas Roberts
I feel that I am being drawn in to an enemy encampment, but: Developing a proof would be far better than choosing to rely on inference, if the goal is to develop a larger-scale understanding of a system. Take dark energy as an example. Its presence is inferred from having observed that the rate

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-24 Thread lrudolph
Nick, I sent this response at 9.39. did you not get it. I think the server throws away one in five of my messages, just for fun. FWIW, I also didn't get it then. Do you know Auden's Domesday Song? It begins, Jumbled in the common box Of their dumb mortality, Orchid, swan, and