Re: [FRIAM] GAS

2014-12-01 Thread Steve Smith
Eric - It seems that the Term of Art "chaos", referring to tons of structure that is merely recalcitrant to description, is the odd man out. What an eloquent way of putting it... FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] GAS

2014-12-01 Thread Grant Holland
It looks to me that there is currently deep confusion around the use of both words "chaos" and "disorder" in the field of dynamical systems. Sometimes the meaning "unpredictability" is evident in that usage. But at other time the meaning "disorganization" is. These two ideas are different and v

Re: [FRIAM] GAS

2014-12-01 Thread Eric Smith
Hi Nick and Arlo, > Yes. What got me about this was the fact that the idea of gas as a chaotic > state of matter goes WAY back. Here it seems the etymology goes the other way, though, right? The notion of a "chaotic state of matter" is actually a new borrowing of a term, with about as much