Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
“Transhumanism is a great Sci-Fi narrative, but not a good bet for us in the long run.” Well, http://www.nature.com/articles/srep22555 http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/06/01/science.aaf6850.full FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Marcus or Robot Overload, Tongue in cheek: How about early "retirement" packages to benefit the surviving families? I certainly may have to consider this myself for my kids' and grandkids' survival if the "offer" comes about. But I am retired and not displaced ... but I may still seem like

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
If I were a robot overlord, and I didn’t want to look after 7 billion humans as pets, I’d start offering advanced medicine and genetic enhancements to “early users”, esp. the rich and powerful. The results of these could be things like open-ended lifespan (ongoing repairs to aging bodies) and

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Robert Wall
Getting back to Tom's original theme about how AI is driving change, let's examine that further, but now integrating in some of the other thoughts in this thread such as: on the hegemonic nature of AI-- proprietary or open source; or the societal impact of AI on the workforce--requisite skills

Re: [FRIAM] I hope this is ok...

2016-06-06 Thread glen ☣
Fantastic! I love how they (he's the icon for an entire team) actually _do_ things to exhibit absurdity, rather than merely talking about it. I was particularly fond of http://www.ourladyofperpetualexemption.com/ It's like an extension of physical comedy ... organizational comedy? Loopy

[FRIAM] I hope this is ok...

2016-06-06 Thread Gillian Densmore
Because it's a kind fun segment with John Oliver about America's enormous problem with debts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUAntt1z2c Just thought some others might find it a fun segment. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Roger Critchlow
https://medium.com/utopia-for-realists/why-do-the-poor-make-such-poor-decisions-f05d84c44f1a was interesting, vis a vis what happens when you just give poor people money. -- rec -- On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I suspect a universal basic income

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
I suspect a universal basic income is a requirement for people to _not_ seek an idle life.If people can't count on food, shelter, and health care, they probably can't engage in anything in a substantial way.On the other hand, saving the people that could do substantial things (and by

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread glen ☣
On that note, I found this article interesting: A Universal Basic Income Is a Poor Tool to Fight Poverty http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/business/economy/universal-basic-income-poverty.html?_r=0 One of the interesting dynamics I've noticed is when I argue about the basic income with people

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Stephen Guerin
Hi Pamela, While open source gives some transparency, our direction is to move toward more distributed AI where our data is not given to a centralized authority before the AI is applied. Rather, we think that the AI should be more out at the edge of the network with our

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Nick Thompson
Roger, Can artificial flowers learn? Are you on your boat, yet? Beautiful day on Massachusetts bay! See http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-vis.html By the way, in support of your aphorism “layers of the atmosphere don’t mix” which I have been chewing on ever since you

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Pamela McCorduck
The field of AI itself has had a major project underway for a couple of years to address these issues. It’s called AI 100, and is funded by one of the wealthy founders of the field, Eric Horowitz at Microsoft. The headquarters of this project are at Stanford University. It is funded for a

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nah, we’re just a media for representing knowledge. Not a obviously a very efficient one, either. I mean, wasting all that time in school, only to forget much of it and then hopefully become a professional expert in some tiny area. And a lot of people won’t even accomplish that, but

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread glen ☣
Well, my interpretation of Pamela's concern would have more to do with [bio]diversity than it does some form of naive extinction threat. In previous posts, I've outlined my skepticism that (complicated) open source is any less opaque to understanding than proprietary sources because the

Re: [FRIAM] Fascinating article on how AI is driving change in SEO, categories of AI and the Law of Accelerating Returns

2016-06-06 Thread Edward Angel
There is a large group of distinguished people including Elon Musk, Stephen Hawking, Bill Joy and Martin Rees, who believe that AI is an existential threat and the probability of the human race surviving another 100 years is less than 50/50. Stephen Hawking has said he has no idea what to do