Yikes! Sorry Stephen for misspelling your name, but at least I did it consistently. š
- Rebort On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Sorry, > > It took me a bit to realize that I was the OP. > > This has been tremendously useful for me, because it has given me a sense > of what you all agree on and what is controversial. Author of the book, of > course, writes as if everything he says would be agreed upon by everybody > in theworld, including. > > I will restart the book with all of this discussion behind me. > > Thanks to you all, > > OP > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ep > ropella > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 3:38 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Understanding you-folks > > > Heh, to be as clear as possible, there were 4 questions in the OP and > several follow-up questions, summarized below. I think the additional > ideas on computation were (mostly) addressing the follow-up questions, > particularly the _exploration_ of the idea that not all inference is > computational. But those additional ideas also address the OP question #2 > to some extent. We have 1 answer to OP #1 from Dave. > > On 07/02/2016 08:30 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:> Dear Friammers, > > 1. Has anybody read this book? > > 2. Do you understand it? > > 3. WTF is an Accept State? > > 4. And why is it called an āAccept State?ā > > On 07/05/2016 06:25 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > > If one has to use an āartificialā stop rule such as āquit when you get > to the tenth decimal pointā, is such a problem deemed ācomputableā or > ānon-computableā? Can one ācomputeā the square root of two? > > On 07/06/2016 11:33 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:> Thanks, Glen, > > I assume that the following is NOT a program in your sense. > > ;;Compute the sum of 2 and 2;;. > > Begin > > Ask Dad, "Dad, what is the sum of 2 and 2? > > Dad says, "Four" > > Four > > End. > > It is, however, an algorithm, right? > > On 07/06/2016 12:05 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > > I guess what I was fishing for is some sort of exploration of the idea > that not all procedures for arriving at answers are computations. > > On 07/07/2016 11:32 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote: > > Nick, > > > > Owen asks: > >> has the OP (original post) been satisfied? > > > > Has the this email thread answered your original question what an Accept > state is? And why it is called an Accept state? > > > > Are we in an accept or reject state. Or like many threads is this > non-halting? > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net > <mailto:o...@backspaces.net>> wrote: > >> > >> Just to calibrate: has the OP been satisfied? > >> > >> I *think* so, we discussed FSM's discussing their input string and > their final state and whether that was the designated accept state. > >> > >> And tho a Turing Machine is more than a FSM, the vocabulary of > states, input strings and so on should answer the OP. > >> > >> I'm not sure the additional ideas on computation were coherent > enough to add to his interest, but then, knowing Nick, I could be wrong! > >> > >> Hope the book reading is progressing with success, given our help. > > > -- > glen ep ropella ā„ 971-280-5699 > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >
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