Re: [FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
Using a logic programming language (like Prolog) sometimes feels to me like a dream state, sort of like Frank describes. I use logic programming as a cognitive aide as well as a computational aide. Asking, “How do the pieces fit together in a problem? What is independent and what is

Re: [FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Arlo Barnes
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > Prolog dreams involving natural language understanding, and eventually VR > and mixed reality dreams. In fact the latter two I would say I still have, > though they are polluted/mixed with myth-dreams based in various

Re: [FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Steven A Smith
Frank - I used to have semi-lucid dreams whose setting was inside of a VM of some kind... being a Unix-head myself, it often had a lot of Shell like idioms but it also had many of the flavors of the kinds of higher level tools I might have been using about that time. I remember early

Re: [FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
Very clever. Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Oct 21, 2016 7:05 PM, "Robert Wall" wrote: > > “Once upon a time, I dreamt I was a Unix programmer, fluttering hither and >> thither, to all intents and purposes a Unix programmer. I was conscious >> only of my

Re: [FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Robert Wall
> “Once upon a time, I dreamt I was a Unix programmer, fluttering hither and > thither, to all intents and purposes a Unix programmer. I was conscious > only of my happiness as a Unix programmer, unaware that I was myself. Soon > I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know

Re: [FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
Nick, Well, sometimes when I'm thinking about a dream, I suddenly remember some detail that I had completely forgotten. But more often I fall back to sleep. In my old age, I seldom remember dreams. Frank Frank Wimberly On Oct 21, 2016 6:26 PM, "Nick Thompson"

Re: [FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Nick Thompson
Good lord, Frank. Surely you are teasing me. How could your memory of a dream not be accurate?! Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] enablors vs disruptors

2016-10-21 Thread Nick Thompson
Thanks, Robert, for an very interesting and thoughtful contribution to this thread. I sit with Dave West every Friday, so I would have had to be more brain-dead than I actually am not to anticipate that my question might be taken politically. It’s all good. And many of the same issues apply.

[FRIAM] Unix Nightmare

2016-10-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
I first learned Unix when I went to work at Bell Labs in 1978. I was only there for two years but over the next 18 years at Carnegie Mellon I used Unix workstations or time-sharing systems almost constantly. The other night I had a dream that involved Unix. I am not saying the dream made sense.

Re: [FRIAM] Eric's book link: The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth Geosphere

2016-10-21 Thread Nick Thompson
Nick is back in town. He is fussing with a bunch of health problems right now, so won't take any leading rolls, but would love to be included in any such discussion, and will get the book. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University

Re: [FRIAM] enablors vs disruptors

2016-10-21 Thread Robert Wall
So, perhaps, rather than thinking of enablers and disrupters as alternative predicate adjectives describing new technological innovations brought to market, let's think of the former as the subject of a simple sentence with a prepositional phrase and the latter as the object of the same sentence,

Re: [FRIAM] enablors vs disruptors

2016-10-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
The concrete truck also facilitates a new ecosystem. The old ecosystem (say, coal mining, humans building mass-produced machines with their hands) won't last much longer anyway.The old ecosystem is like a lake with out-of-control toxic algae growth. -Original Message- From:

Re: [FRIAM] Eric's book link: The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth Geosphere

2016-10-21 Thread Steven A Smith
Eric - Congratulations! Looks like a great jump forward in this literature! I look forward to it! Any chance you will be holding a public reading with a local bookstore? Or have a preferred local bookstore we could storm to make sure they carry your book by buying a few? My goto of

Re: [FRIAM] enablors vs disruptors

2016-10-21 Thread Steven A Smith
Well, there's the concrete truck and then there's the jackhammer. if these are the subjects, what are the objects? A concrete truck enables the paving of the universe but disrupts the ecosystem while the jackhammer presumably/roughly does just the opposite.

[FRIAM] Eric's book link: The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth Geosphere

2016-10-21 Thread Stephen Guerin
Eric's book came up at FRIAM. here's a Amazon link, there may be a better distributor. "The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth Geosphere" by Eric Smith, Harold J. Morowitz. Start reading it for free: http://amzn.to/2dGBsKs