Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
Glen, You are assuming that a very elaborate sophisticated machine based model will work better than swarms of microbots stitching micro sized jpegs together. Evolution by its persistence seems to prove that some small part is working correctly. This gives me some faith that we are not a lost

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
Thanks for the structure of thought . So am I an Iconoclast because I am all too aware of the misuse of Icons ( simulations). I taught FEM and CAD and saw puzzlement on the, soon to be, engineers faces. I have watched engineers sneak out of the lecture hall when I started showing slides of

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Tom Johnson
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Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Nick Thompson
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Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
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Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Tom Johnson
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Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
My almost five-year old grandson definitely likes being deluded in that sense, I think, when he plays Minecraft. The appeal is obvious: he can wander around the world without adults saying "don't go there", he acquires and manages his "inventory", he can build amazing structures, he can dig

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread glen ☣
Tesselation vs. approximation: Ah, right. I was sloppy with my language. Sorry. What you say in the blurb below is questionable because it implies something about the representations ... something like an equivalence of expressive power or somesuch. If there is such a thing as expressive

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Marcus Daniels
Accidental suffocation and strangulation in bed (2013): 903 deaths. Drowning and submersion while in falling into bath-tub (2013): 464 deaths. Killed by terrorists (2014): 17 deaths From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Frye Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 1:55 PM

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread glen ☣
Well, to be clear, my comment was intended to agree with Vladimyr's point that I kinda like being _deluded_. When you finally remove all the meaning from the math notation and just manipulate the markings, it can be very hypnotic. What would otherwise seem to be meaningless syntax takes on a

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
Glen, Thank You. Now we enter into a salient area where dispute could arise if I take you too literally. The Mesh is irregular and can't be called a proper tessalation since there are no repeated elements or tiles. I assume VanHoutte only cheated slightly in his code' The points positions

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Brent Auble
Trump is entirely in the wrong on this, at least if speaking factually is what would determine whether he was right... He watched, presumably, the following segment from the Tucker Carlson show on Friday night: Sweden Government Covering Up Immigrant Rape & Crime - Ami Horowitz - Tucker Carlson

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Roger Frye
And it happened after Trump said it. One might argue for causality. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Barry MacKichan < barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote: > Chrome translates the Dagbladet page if you say the language is Norwegian, > not Swedish (!). It looks like it was a small group

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread Robert Wall
Hi Glen, What you describe as *flow* or being *in the zone* has been precisely written and talked about by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi as the Optimal

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
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2017-02-21 Thread Nick Thompson
Dear Friammers, At last Friday's service, the group was kind enough to talk about my insane idea that the same internet, which had deformed all my fellow citizens into insane narcissists who would engage in no website that did not begin with the word "I-" or "You-", etc., could transform

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread glen ☣
Ridiculous. Trump was _vague_, then tried to clarify, badly. But because he was _vague_, biased sources like that pseudonymous zero hedge author will exploit his vagueness and use _whatever_ might happen as evidence he was right. Did you read the Lakoff article?

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Barry MacKichan
Chrome translates the Dagbladet page if you say the language is Norwegian, not Swedish (!). It looks like it was a small group throwing stones and lighting fire to some parked cars — something I’ll gladly put up with in order to preserve my rights as given in the Bill of Rights. --Barry On

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread glen ☣
There's no doubt that there's some kernel of truth to the concept of "flow" or "in the zone". I always make the mistake of thinking others have had similar experiences to mine. But at our journal club a few weeks ago, while discussing whether math is invented or discovered, one guy kept

Re: [FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Turgay Temel
All these riots erupted right after his claims. He provoked anti immigrants abd now he will use in political objectives. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Owen Densmore > wrote: There's a meme floating around that Trump, as awful

[FRIAM] Trump right again?

2017-02-21 Thread Owen Densmore
There's a meme floating around that Trump, as awful as he is, has been right and ignored for it. This from a retweet I happened across: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/meanwhile-rioting-breaks-out-sweden God this is a weird world. And accelerating! -- Owen

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-21 Thread ┣glen┫
Works perfectly! And cool music, BTW. I see now that you were talking about a tesselation of the sphere's surface. I thought you intended a 3D irregular grid. Regardless, I certainly didn't notice the camera issue. I did notice an odd squashing of the earth textured sphere, though. On