Yes, well. I guess with respect to what you write below, it is time for me to
retire in disorder from the conversation, as I always seem to when logic is
under discussion. I do think that Peirce believed that, in the fullness of
time, sound reasoning should lead more often than its
Frank writes:
"A useful distinction? When I was working in the philosophy Dept at CMU my
boss was a logician. I asked him if he had heard the story that Bertrand
Russell had fallen off his bike on the Cambridge campus when he realized that
Anselm's proof of the existence of God was valid
>But to the extent that we were talking about logic, is not logic the
formalization of good thought?
Not necessarily. For instance: "If A then B implies A" is logically valid
but most people would feel that it's stupid thinking. "Every statement
implies a true statement" is true if you look at
Well, as a Peircean, I am certainly NOT allowed to believe that all valid logic
is deductive, so Got Me There!
But to the extent that we were talking about logic, is not logic the
formalization of good thought? So, then, it behooves one who would claim that
an argument is logic to formalize
A useful distinction? When I was working in the philosophy Dept at CMU my
boss was a logician. I asked him if he had heard the story that Bertrand
Russell had fallen off his bike on the Cambridge campus when he realized
that Anselm's proof of the existence of God was valid (argument from
Hm. My example is simply an argument that I do NOT think succumbs to that
fallacy. Einstein is a reliable, but not completely unchallengeable,
authority. And if he is challenged, we can dig into the theory to find our own
reasoning.
I'm curious if you believe all argument/reasoning can be
Aren't you missing a premise, if you are seeking a valid deductive argument?
What connects Albert's thought with your conclusion?
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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Hm. How about: Albert Einstein understands general relativity and has
predicted the existence of gravitational waves. Therefore, I claim we will
find evidence for the existence of gravitational waves.
On 10/03/2017 05:02 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> So, for instance, lay out an argument for
So, for instance, lay out an argument for the principle below as an argument
that you would approve of.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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No, I think the fallacy is about transparency, for the most part. Perhaps we
could call it "appeal to an oracle" instead. If you rely on an expert in
building your argument, then presumably, if we tracked down that expert, she
could delineate all the reasoning she used to arrive at her
Wait a minute, guys. Isn't it difficult to have an argument for more than a
few seconds without appealing to authority. After all: where did you get
that statistic? Did you do the research yourself? An argument of the
following form is an explicit appeal to authority, yet it is not a fallacy,
"During the exchange, my friend committed
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority. I tried to stop them by
calling out the fallacy. That didn't work. They accused me of condescension.
[sigh] So, I asserted that I would counter-argue by *also* appealing to
authority. And it
Well, keeping people talking *can* be the problem. And we don't really want to
shut them up when they go off the rails. Boring story: At a recent beer
festival, a friend of mine was ranting about their neighbor and how _crazy_ she
is, for any of a number of meanings of the word "crazy". My
Glen ‘n all,
The article relates to a project I dreamed of ... helping people who disagree
have a fair argument. In my notion, a team of philosophy students,
masquerading as a program, directed discussants toward fair argument with a
view, perhaps, ultimately, in my dreams, teaching a
The computers being trained to beat you in an argument
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41010848
> At the University of Dundee we have recently even been using 2,000-year-old
> theories of rhetoric as a way of spotting the structures of real-life
> arguments.
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