Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread gⅼеɳ ☣
Excellent! Yes, complement is a much more appropriate relation between the ideas than compete, I think. Thanks. On 11/06/2017 11:08 AM, Robert Wall wrote: > > Actually, I think I said that Smolin's idea "competes" with Mareletto's.  > That was sloppy; I meant that Smolin's theory can exist

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread Robert Wall
Glen, I think Carl is referring to my earlier remark about String Theory. He is not alone in attacking Popper because Popper's idea concerning falsifiability and a "true" scientific theory stand in the way of just accepting a proposed theory base just on their mathematical elegance. I, myself,

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread Merle Lefkoff
I agree. High time, Nick. I hope it's OK that I forwarded this to Stu Kauffman. I took out all the names. He and Kate had dinner at my house Saturday night with our speaker from Sweden, and I thought he might shed some light for me. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Nick Thompson

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread Carl Tollander
Yes, Nick, that. Sorry to hijack the thread. Carry on. Carl On Nov 6, 2017 10:30, "Nick Thompson" wrote: > Or did he just REALLY LOVE Sabine's rant and was looking for a place to > shoe-horn it in. > > Speaking as someone who for 15 years of his career, put a

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread Nick Thompson
Or did he just REALLY LOVE Sabine's rant and was looking for a place to shoe-horn it in. Speaking as someone who for 15 years of his career, put a reference to Popper in the first paragraph of everything I wrote, followed by a reference to Kuhn, I really liked Sabine's rant. High time.

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread gⅼеɳ ☣
Heh, I'm too dense to understand how Sabine's rant is relevant. Are you suggesting that England, Smolin, and Marletto are tossing fiddled falsifiable noodles at the wall? Or are you suggesting my hunt for similarities in the 3 models is something like her Dawid fallacy (the light's better by

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to join a discussion about Charles Sanders Peirce

2017-11-06 Thread Carl Tollander
Hey, don't hold back, Sabine. http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2017/11/how-popper-killed-particle-physics.html?m=1 On Nov 5, 2017 11:09, "┣glen┫" wrote: > OK. So, I hear you saying (please correct me!) that you do see a > similarity in all 3 (England, Smolin, and