Re: [FRIAM] Software development time estimates

2019-04-29 Thread Barry MacKichan
![](cid:C0BF1AAF-13F2-447F-A6D3-E4D7F6C3597A@mackichan.com "IMG_1664.JPG") Attached is a sketch from my memory of the estimates of the completion of Microsoft Word for Windows made on various dates. The dashed line is where the estimated date of completion equals the year the estimate was mad

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-04-29 Thread Nick Thompson
Lee God:creation::fish:water::programmer:emergence? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Beha

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-04-29 Thread lrudolph
> It's as > if I ran into God on the street and I said, "God, I have always > wondered: How did you do this creation thing? And God answered "What > creation thing?" God:creation::fish:water FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Me

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-04-29 Thread Nick Thompson
Glen, This is, among many other things, glorious prose. Thank you. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Beh

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-04-29 Thread glen∈ℂ
We can apply your ... pragmatism (not pragmaticism) inherent in "what good is gut pain" to your story vs. model question, too. The significance of any thing lies in what you can *do* with it. Hence, any "taken as given", self-evident propositions will only exist as tools, just like their derived

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-04-29 Thread Nick Thompson
Hi David, No, on Bennett. Not yet. But as I struggle with Russ’s assignment, that I sketch out a material account of the consciousness relation (the conscious-of relation?”), can I share this thought with you? Why exactly do FRIAMMERS fascinate me? It is because you begin with e

Re: [FRIAM] New Mexico Legacy

2019-04-29 Thread Barry MacKichan
My wife worked for several years at the Rio Grande Archives, in the NMSU library. When asked, I said her job was to read other peoples’ mail. --Barry On 25 Apr 2019, at 19:16, Pamela McCorduck wrote: Your kids, and especially your grandchildren, will so appreciate this kind of memoir. Often,

Re: [FRIAM] New Mexico Legacy

2019-04-29 Thread Barry MacKichan
In one of life’s surprises, one of our daughters sent us something she found through Google (but not ancestor.com), a document about 75 pages long, author currently unknown, that tells stories of my wife’s ancestors back to the late 18th century and ends with her grandparents and their siblings

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-04-29 Thread lrudolph
Dave writes in relevant part: > also, if the Turing machine, the programmer, and the 'user' form an > appropriate triad, might it be said that the Turing machine 'knows' what > the programmer programmed and the user observes? None of the three > elements "possess" that knowledge in isolation, but