[FRIAM] Tribal nations could be wiped out by virus

2020-04-02 Thread Jochen Fromm
New Mexico's governor warns tribal nations could be 'wiped out' by coronavirus - according to ABC News https://abcn.ws/2xxoQlk-J..-- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... / --- ..-. / ..-. .-. .. .- -- / ..- -. .. - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom meeting Fridays 9:30a-12p Mountain USA

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Prof David West
Liminal --> use the analogy Schrodinger's cat, until the box is opened, the cat is both alive and dead and neither alive nor dead, it is betwixt and between. That is a kind of binary liminality. Generalize from that to N-ary space. von Gennep was talking about rights of passage — of which few

Re: [FRIAM] idle questions while in self-quarantine

2020-04-02 Thread thompnickson2
Dave, Glad to have you back in the country. It seems safer with you in it. I can only speak to one of your questions at the moment. I know, puzzling as it seems, Peirce called himself a realist, or even, half mockingly, an "idealist realist". He basic doctrine of realism is that there

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
Excellent! Thanks. It does make the analogy a little more defensible if the couplings between the locally structured Ising models (chained together by common variables) can be relaxed, maybe allowing mixed phase whole models. On 4/2/20 11:31 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > One might have a

[FRIAM] Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread thompnickson2
Bruised and battered, nonetheless, the theory staggers back to its feet! Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx Description: MS-Excel 2007 spreadsheet -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... / --- ..-. / ..-. .-. .. .- -- / ..- -. .. - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom meeting Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] Potential COVID-19 vaccine developed by UPMC, Pitt

2020-04-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
Yes, there is a policy that permits compassionate use of new meds before completion of clinical trials. It may be that the possibility of fatality is required. George?By the way, Pitt was where the Salk vaccine was developed in the early 50s. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe,

Re: [FRIAM] Potential COVID-19 vaccine developed by UPMC, Pitt

2020-04-02 Thread Prof David West
A test of how serious the government is with regard bringing the crisis to a close - if they fast track development/testing. Isn't there a recent Federal law that allows people the right to try experimental treatments? Seems it could could be adapted to allow very rapid testing for side

[FRIAM] Potential COVID-19 vaccine developed by UPMC, Pitt

2020-04-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
One of my almae matres. ( My daughter is a Latin teacher) https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/potential-covid-19-vaccine-developed-by-upmc-pitt/XCZNYVI7GVC2JFTWCSQYUM55WU/ --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... / --- ..-. / ..-. .-. .. .- -- / ..-

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
"Liminal etc." What?? Morelocks of Friam unite. That I could transliterate. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -- --- .-. . .-.. --- -.-. -.- ... / --- ..-. / ..-. .-. .. .- -- / ..- -. .. - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom meeting Fridays 9:30a-12p Mountain USA

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Prof David West
Liminal comes to mind as well - from von Gennep's discussion of rights of passage. Separation (from all that was, including individual identity) Liminal (where all things are possible) Incorporation (reintegration into a new reality). You are supposed to have a guide through the Liminal in

Re: [FRIAM] SarsCoV-2 meta-list

2020-04-02 Thread Tom Johnson
My apologies. I thought I was sending it to only Steve Smith. Tom Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) *NM Foundation for Open

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: < Can the sub-models coupled like in the paper be in different phases? Or is the coupling "tight" such that a transition in one sub-system forces a transition everywhere? > One might have a situation like below where the bond strengths between molecules were gradually getting

Re: [FRIAM] SarsCoV-2 meta-list

2020-04-02 Thread Gary Schiltz
It's a shame it depends on Flash. These days, most browsers don't come with it installed, and on the iOS platform, it isn't even available. On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:16 PM Tom Johnson wrote: > Or a meta Doc with links pointing to Doc w Category Table(s)? > I also like to use Comapping for this

Re: [FRIAM] SarsCoV-2 meta-list

2020-04-02 Thread Tom Johnson
Or a meta Doc with links pointing to Doc w Category Table(s)? I also like to use Comapping for this sort of thing. Invite sent to you. https://go.comapping.com/comapping.html#mapid=227145 Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com Institute for Analytic

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
This re-raises Marcus' contribution to preserving the analogy between phase changes and socio-political upheaval: On 3/23/20 9:48 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fict.2016.00014/full I haven't had time to answer a question I have through my own homework.

[FRIAM] SarsCoV-2 meta-list

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
I'm trying to build a list of parallel or complementary efforts to the SimTable/RedFish efforts...  Once this list gets semi-populated I will share it out here as  well. The focus is on groups/teams we might join, collaborate with, obtain data from, etc.   this is a pretty broad spec and I may be

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
On 4/2/20 10:20 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > I think she does, indirectly. Homeostasis might be easier to maintain with a > diversity of strategies preserved in the milieu. Authoritarianism is a > monotonic forcing structure. As long as there's a vibrant ecology of > revolutionaries throbbing

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
Here's what's in the GDoc: https://zoom.us/j/255049879 https://bit.ly/virtualfriam Maybe one of our Morlocks could put that in the overly long suffix to every. single. post. that. nobody. ever. deletes. when they hit reply? 8^) On 4/2/20 9:31 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > Do you have a Zoom

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
This just in via Guerin from LocoTopia: Comparative Resilience: 8 Principles for Post-COVID Reconstruction http://michaelhshuman.com/?p=456 On 4/2/20 10:20 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > I think she does, indirectly. Homeostasis might be easier to maintain with a > diversity of strategies preserved in

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
On 4/2/20 10:09 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Dave writes: > > < There are 30,000 known coronaviruses in the animal population just > waiting for the opportune moment to jump species. > > I knew there was a way to solve the climate problem. > > > I don't think Ms. Gaia cares too much about the

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Steven A Smith
My observation is that from Dickens' "best of times, worst of times".   I think as an inflection/bifurcation point,   many things are possible.  "sensitive dependence on initial conditions".   In the spirit of "creative visualization" and "self-fulfilling prophecies" there are risks and

Re: [FRIAM] FW: YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Carl Tollander
New MQL is out. https://www.dhs.gov/publication/st-master-question-list-covid-19 On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:50 AM wrote: > > > FRIAMMERS: > > > > "the government cant print money fast enough to save the economy" > > > > I have to say, this made me wonder just exactly what an "economy" is. > > >

[FRIAM] FW: YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread thompnickson2
FRIAMMERS: "the government cant print money fast enough to save the economy" I have to say, this made me wonder just exactly what an "economy" is. Imagine us like so many well fed rats in our separate cages. Food and water is brought to us daily by Amazon. Municipal Services

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Jochen Fromm
Do you have a Zoom meeting tomorrow again?-J. Original message From: thompnicks...@gmail.com Date: 4/2/20 05:01 (GMT+01:00) To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx Not good for the theory.  Yes,

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I think she does, indirectly. Homeostasis might be easier to maintain with a diversity of strategies preserved in the milieu. Authoritarianism is a monotonic forcing structure. As long as there's a vibrant ecology of revolutionaries throbbing underneath, then authoritarianism is A-OK. But if it

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Marcus Daniels
Dave writes: < There are 30,000 known coronaviruses in the animal population just waiting for the opportune moment to jump species. I knew there was a way to solve the climate problem. > I don't think Ms. Gaia cares too much about the authoritarianism problem, though. Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I've seen a few articles with titles like "Coronavirus is the death of Neoliberalism" or "... Capitalism" and whatnot. I'm skeptical. As much as I reject analogies between societal upheaval/collapse and phases of matter, I do believe in inflection points. My guess is that authoritarianism is

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-02 Thread Prof David West
It is kind of interesting that the religious fundamentalists seem to be in denial with regard Covid. I would have expected more "It's God's wrath" or "The end is nigh" from that sector. Even if we hit the 2 million dead in the US, and 5% of the population immune, that leaves 95% at severe risk