Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed

2020-07-07 Thread Jon Zingale
While following this thread, I keep reaching for and not finding an essay written by Adorno (or Horkheimer or another Frankfurt intellectual), where the essayist writes about a transition that happens in the western description of *genius*. The transition is from that of the romantic period

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2020-07-07 Thread thompnickson2
I have never heard that story before! I love it. n Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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2020-07-07 Thread ∄ uǝlƃ
Yes, "physics envy" is VERY far off. 1) As I tried to claim before, physicists don't speak with authority in that way. The way these people speak is very different from the way physicists speak. 2) While Firestein knows some physics, my graphic artist friend has NO idea what quantum mechanics

Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed

2020-07-07 Thread Eric Charles
At some point around 2007, some lawyer in Clark Universities IP department got a big muckety muck (I forget if it was Chief Counsel or the Provost, or what) to send out a really overzealous email, informing us that the university policy required profitable ideas that we came up with during our

Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed

2020-07-07 Thread Eric Charles
Glen said: "Both Firestein and my friend are using physics to lend some credibility by proxy to their rhetoric." So... what is the word we use for the assumption that physics will lend credibility-by-proxy. If you are looking for credibility-by-proxy you must think whatever you are saying needs

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2020-07-07 Thread Joe Spinden
A mathematician I once knew repeated a second hand quote from a well-known mathematician: "In mathematics, even to be second rate you have to be pretty smart." On 7/7/20 2:20 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: I think there is envy within and among most professions. When I was at Bios Group, I felt

Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed

2020-07-07 Thread ∄ uǝlƃ
Yeah, I agree. Personally, I'm very susceptible to imposter syndrome. I'm constantly worried about whether I belong somewhere or what I'm doing is useful. I think of it less as an inferiority complex and more of a general anxiety about whether or not I could be doing something more productive

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2020-07-07 Thread Gary Schiltz
I think there is envy within and among most professions. When I was at Bios Group, I felt there was, if not envy, then competition for recognition, between the scientists and software engineers. Being a software guy myself, I can only see it from that side of the fence; I can't speak to how the

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2020-07-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
...don't disregard experimentalists or vice versa. It's simply a practical acceptance... I'll accept that characterization. Frank On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:41 PM ∄ uǝlƃ wrote: > Hm. In these cases, where Firestein talks about quantum mechanics as an > exemplar of how we navigate ignorance and

Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed

2020-07-07 Thread ∄ uǝlƃ
Hm. In these cases, where Firestein talks about quantum mechanics as an exemplar of how we navigate ignorance and my cancer survivor friend as a defense mechanism for avoiding nihilism or depression or whatnot, there is no "I wish I were a physicist". Firestein is a credentialed neuroscientist

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2020-07-07 Thread George Duncan
May well be of interest to you George Duncan Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University georgeduncanart.com See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram Land: (505) 983-6895 Mobile: (505) 469-4671 My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix order and

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2020-07-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
Clinicians (therapists, counselors, psychiatrists, etc) use data that is based on private, highly sensitive personal information, it's very difficult and often impossible to apply the methods of experimental psychologists to that data. The clinicians do write papers but by the experimenters

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2020-07-07 Thread ∄ uǝlƃ
Ah! OK. So, it's not physics envy, it's authority envy. There's still something off about what (I think) you're saying, though. It strikes me that NONE of the physicists I've ever talked to speak with the kind of pseudo-authority the psychologists I've talked to speak with. I.e. in my (limited)

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2020-07-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
Well, if psychologists didn't disagree with each other so much people might respect their authority more. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 11:49 AM wrote: > Glen, > > That physicists have such authority is what

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2020-07-07 Thread thompnickson2
Glen, That physicists have such authority is what psychologists have envied. Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of ? u?l?

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2020-07-07 Thread ∄ uǝlƃ
Is it, though? I think it's an appeal to authority rather than an envy. When my cancer survivor friend confided in me that they'd survived cancer too, and that they strongly believed a "good attitude" and "hopeful thoughts" were critical to survival, then goes on to cite The Tao of Physics

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2020-07-07 Thread ∄ uǝlƃ
That's horrifying. I hope you got some closure. I have no idea how common such things are. Not the same, but similarly, less than 2 years ago, one of Renee's (male) coworkers (with whom we'd been relative friends up to then) pinned [†] her in the hallway of the hospital to yell at her about

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2020-07-07 Thread thompnickson2
Glen wrote; I put the book down in disgust when he started yapping about quantum mechanics. Why does everyone always do that even if they admit upfront they don't know what they're talking about? [sigh] Physics envy. A terrible, awful, terminal disease of the mind. n Nicholas

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2020-07-07 Thread Leigh Fanning
My version of UNM incompetence was the patent agent dropped a critical deadline that permanently prevented patentability of one of my research outcomes that had merit. But that wasn't enough. He followed that up by unbuttoning his shirt and unzipping his pants in a meeting which only

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2020-07-07 Thread Edward Angel
At least at CMU there are people competent enough to make decisions about the merits of faculty work. At one point at UNM, the intellectual property person at UNM declared that any software we produced, even for a class, had to be turned over to him and he would make the decision as to whether

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2020-07-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
John Pople not John People. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 7:39 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Carnegie Mellon's intellectual property policy was described in a ~50 page > summary document when I worked there. But it

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2020-07-07 Thread ∄ uǝlƃ
I've had fun poking at vampires like Peter Thiel for over-estimating cross-species translation of parabiosis. So this is probably just confirmation bias. But whatever. I also heard someone (I've forgotten who, sorry) say they take vitamins as a prophylactic because they fast. And fasting has

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2020-07-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
Carnegie Mellon's intellectual property policy was described in a ~50 page summary document when I worked there. But it was apparently more complicated than that. I had to testify in Federal Court regarding software that had been developed by chemistry professor and Nobel Laureate John People

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2020-07-07 Thread ∄ uǝlƃ
Continuing down the open access thread and the ethics of Schwartz' JSTOR theft, libgen, and sci-hub: Retractions and controversies over coronavirus research show that the process of science is working as it should

Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed

2020-07-07 Thread Edward Angel
Gil, Personally there are no financial gains in the form of residuals or research royalties from my research. In most colleges and universities, especially in science and engineering, successful researchers are expected to have a lot of external support through grants and are paid better,