Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening?

2023-02-18 Thread George Duncan
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 2:51 PM Jochen Fromm wrote: > It reminds me of this book: > The Zoologist's Guide to the Galaxy > > https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646643/the-zoologists-guide-to-the-galaxy-by-arik-kershenbaum/ > > -J. > > > Original message > From: Nicholas Tho

Re: [FRIAM] Tangents and the Hamiltonian of News/Cultural Narratives

2023-02-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
Steve Quibbles: An uncountable set is infinite. It's just that there are infinite sets with larger cardinality. There is only one tangent vector at a point along a differentiable curve, I believe. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM

Re: [FRIAM] tangent on dirt unto soil , pile unto patch, nematode unto jellyfish

2023-02-18 Thread Steve Smith
Merle - What meaning do you give to the word "boundary"?  Time, location, etc.? Good point... that is perhaps the key to why I resist the term, it is usually offered to me registered on one of those singular dimensions...   while I perhaps perceive it as the superposition of multiple dimens

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-18 Thread Marcus Daniels
Isn’t it a problem that if we lobotomize Dave, he’s no longer Dave? From: Friam On Behalf Of Eric Charles Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 5:30 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories I don't know what you mean by "mental stuff", of cour

Re: [FRIAM] tangent on dirt unto soil , pile unto patch, nematode unto jellyfish

2023-02-18 Thread Merle Lefkoff
What meaning do you give to the word "boundary"? Time, location, etc.? On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 10:09 AM Steve Smith wrote: > > > Great find. Thanks. I will read that. > > It was pretty damned dense for me, no more probably than OOO itself, and > being something of a critique the complexity is

Re: [FRIAM] Tangents and the Hamiltonian of News/Cultural Narratives

2023-02-18 Thread Merle Lefkoff
Steve, you are not alone. On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 10:11 AM Steve Smith wrote: > > > Thanks to EricC for introducing the very idea of a *tangent* to this > discussion. I would propose that "mental stuff" might be characterized > *by* tangents? The mathematical/geometric definition of *tangent

Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening?

2023-02-18 Thread Jochen Fromm
If you are looking for good books to read, I am reading at the moment "Magnificent Rebels" from Andrea Wulf, among others. I have bought it recently at a bookstore in Berlin and it is one of the better books I have read recently. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/609881/magnificent-rebel

[FRIAM] Tangents and the Hamiltonian of News/Cultural Narratives

2023-02-18 Thread Steve Smith
Thanks to EricC for introducing the very idea of a /tangent/ to this discussion.  I would propose that "mental stuff" might be characterized *by* tangents?   The mathematical/geometric definition of *tangent* tends to suggest a *reduction* of the curve or arc or path at a specific point alon

[FRIAM] tangent on dirt unto soil , pile unto patch, nematode unto jellyfish

2023-02-18 Thread Steve Smith
Great find. Thanks. I will read that. It was pretty damned dense for me, no more probably than OOO itself, and being something of a critique the complexity is compounded for me a little.   I definitely was drawn in by the poetic title: "Extruding Intentionality from the Metaphysical Flux"...

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-18 Thread Prof David West
Panpsychism is fundamentally dualist. There is 'Mind" and there is 'Matter'. However, neither is found in isolation, Mind is always embedded in Matter and all Matter possesses Mind. This is a proportionate relation: very tiny bits of Matter (string, particle) embed very minute "auras" of matter.

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-18 Thread Eric Charles
I don't know what you mean by "mental stuff", of course. Well... In this context, I mean whatever the "psyche" part of panpsychism entails. Given that I don't believe in disembodied minds, I'm with you 100% on everything you do being "body stuff". Which, presumably, leads to the empirical questio