[FRIAM] Artificial intelligence is a familiar-looking monster, say Henry Farrell and Cosma Shalizi

2023-06-24 Thread Marcus Daniels
Artificial intelligence is a familiar-looking monster, say Henry Farrell and Cosma Shalizi from The Economist Gift link https://econ.st/3JvDvjg -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe /

Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

2023-06-24 Thread David Eric Smith
Stephen, thank you for these, Continuous your paragraphs at the bottom, there is a project I have wanted to pursue off and on for 25 years, and which gets cheaper each year. I probably described it before on the list (maybe more than once), in which case apologies for the repeat. The neoclass

Re: [FRIAM] I am not Unique

2023-06-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
Thanks, Russ. I posted that because I've been bugging certain Friam attendees about why they travel so much. I say there's no place that I'd rather be than Santa Fe so I tend to stay here. It's not that I haven't traveled. I remember being moved when I stood at the place where Thomas Becket was

Re: [FRIAM] I am not Unique

2023-06-24 Thread glen
Goodhart's Law. On June 24, 2023 3:48:14 PM PDT, Russ Abbott wrote: >Frank, Thanks for the link. > >Agnes Callard, the author of the article, sneers at tourists who visit >Paris in order to visit the Louvre in order to see the Mona Lisa (and then >spend 45 seconds looking at it)--because that's w

Re: [FRIAM] I am not Unique

2023-06-24 Thread Russ Abbott
Frank, Thanks for the link. Agnes Callard, the author of the article, sneers at tourists who visit Paris in order to visit the Louvre in order to see the Mona Lisa (and then spend 45 seconds looking at it)--because that's what one does in Paris. But presumably, Callard would find it perfectly acce

Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

2023-06-24 Thread Stephen Guerin
Thanks, Roger. I put a copy of Shalizi and Farrell's paper for discussion here: https://redfish.com/papers/temp20230624/shaliziFarrell_AI_Economist.pdf (As this is a not a public email list, I think it's fair use to post a link to the article for discussion. I will delete the file tomorrow so

Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

2023-06-24 Thread David Eric Smith
I didn’t pay to read the economist, but the summary of the article given in the twitter thread is one I like. Meaning: the framework of reasoning they use seems insightful and of the right kind to me. We had a version of it earlier in the Ted Chiang article linked from the Cory Doctorow articl

[FRIAM] I am not Unique

2023-06-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
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Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

2023-06-24 Thread Gillian Densmore
Sooo a derpy animal, meets a literal eldritch nightmare creature. Now does this encounter include both speakable, and unspeakable PTSD inducing nightmares? or did the derps mind just turn into something about the consistency of jello? On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 2:56 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > I w

[FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

2023-06-24 Thread Roger Critchlow
I was trawling through my saved bookmarks looking for insights into Prigozhin's mutiny, when I stumbled to http://bactra.org/weblog/ and found that Henry Farrell and Cosma Shalizi have just published an essay in The Economist, https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2023/06/21/artificial-intelligen