[FRIAM] Thursday

2023-07-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
We're taking grandson Matthew to Colorado Springs to see the WW2 Aircraft Museum. We leave tomorrow and return Friday. That means I won't be in Santa Fe Thursday morning. John Dobson, a regular attendee of vFriam, will be in Santa Fe that day. We can either skip vFriam this week or Stephen can

Re: [FRIAM] We're taking grandson Matthew to Colorado Springs to see the WW2 Aircraft Museum. We leave tomorrow and return Friday. That means I won't be in Santa Fe Thursday morning. John Dobson, a re

2023-07-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 7:05 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > What do you think, Steph? > > Frank > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > -. --- - /

[FRIAM] We're taking grandson Matthew to Colorado Springs to see the WW2 Aircraft Museum. We leave tomorrow and return Friday. That means I won't be in Santa Fe Thursday morning. John Dobson, a regula

2023-07-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
What do you think, Steph? Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom htt

Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

2023-07-18 Thread glen
Hm. It seems to me that self-attention allows a kind of circularity, where dependence on ancestors (or a built environment, or whatever "deep" structure exists in one's current context) does not. Nick's diatribe against teleonomy back in '87 focuses on circularity and, I suspect, would appeal to

Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

2023-07-18 Thread Prof David West
teleonomic matter (particles that think) - totally consistent with Vedic / Buddhist cosmology. Even elementary particles are subject to the Law of Karma if they "misbehave"—something very unlikely, but not impossible. davew On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, at 10:27 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > > > On M