Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

2023-10-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
A nihilist can still have preferences. > On Oct 12, 2023, at 10:21 AM, glen wrote: > > I think that's an ideological stance, not a brute fact. The use of the term > "better" is nothing but an "ought", which is difficult to derive from an "is". > >> On 10/9/23 10:07, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>

Re: [FRIAM] natalism

2023-10-12 Thread glen
Yep. And the same is true with Frank's trolling about the well-definedness of truth. Consistency, like reduction and isolation, is a fantastic tool but a bad master. When Hanson argues that we must continue to have babies or risk the halt of innovation, it's with a fixed backdrop, worldview. Ad

Re: [FRIAM] natalism

2023-10-12 Thread Steve Smith
Glen - I think I agree with this spirit...  and the invocation of a high-dimensional (but finitely so) landscape is not only the constraints we live in, but in some sense the ones we *choose* to live in?   I think excess/sloppy meaning might be another term for a local/temporary increase (or

Re: [FRIAM] natalism

2023-10-12 Thread glen
Well, *if* one is constrained to inhabiting attractors to begin with, then a mechanism for hopping between attractors is a "good thing". But I'd argue that this is a mere band-aide, treating the symptom rather than the cause. The real disorder is the tendency to inhabit attractors ... or perhap

Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

2023-10-12 Thread glen
I think that's an ideological stance, not a brute fact. The use of the term "better" is nothing but an "ought", which is difficult to derive from an "is". On 10/9/23 10:07, Marcus Daniels wrote: We are better off if the ones that carry demonstrably false claims are proportionately devalued.