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And the elephant in the room is (.. sound of drums please ..) :
"All [groups] are created equal"
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Ditto you and Iraq.
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
Merle,
I am deeply grateful for my life, which is extraordinarily privileged in many
ways. I'm
Merle,
I *am *deeply grateful for my life, which *is *extraordinarily privileged
in many ways. I'm not sure what deep remorse would have to do with it.
Even were we to institute some rules that gave everyone in the world
historically extraordinary privileges, it would be a mistake to give
everyone
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 11:40 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
Coming from different perspectives (missing: our interrelationship with natu
at Sarbarjit describes seems more retributive than
> redistributive.)
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Coming from different perspectives (missing: our interrelationship with
nature) hasn't ultimately offered us a good future, as well as an inability
to avoid war and addiction to weapons of mass destruction (including global
warming). I suggest that a new perspective for someone like Eric might be
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Eric Charles
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 10:04 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
" All persons would be created equally .. in a perfect world."
Hard disagre
" All persons would be created equally .. in a perfect world."
Hard disagree. Perhaps in a perfect we would reduce the extreme inequities
a bit, but it would be a much less perfect world if we created actual full
equality. This is part of my long-standing disagreement with Nick's
attempts to flat-
Colonization is a proven model. For 2 trillion dollars, shouldn’t we have
some concrete benefit in mind? Sure there’s some taxes via defense
contractors. I don’t know what one would do with that place. Casinos?
> On Aug 27, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Sarbajit Roy wrote:
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
Nick,
I am not a metaphysicist to debate such things with you. Can just state cold
facts.
All persons would be created equally .. in a perfect world.
However, when the world
Nick,
I am not a metaphysicist to debate such things with you. Can just state
cold facts.
All persons would be created equally .. in a perfect world.
However, when the world they are born into is imbalanced, in actuality
their weightage depends on the circumstances of their birth and the larger
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
A photo of me, my oldest cous
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A photo of me, my oldest cousin, and my grandfather taken at that time (WW2).
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So, of the privileges you enjoy and list, how many would have to go away before
you life would be no longer “decent”?
To be honest, Idon’t know what I am fishing for here, but for some reason the
answer to that questio
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Pieter Steenekamp
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 3:06 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
Nick,
Thanks for asking ho
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I like Amartya Sen's take on what he calls "agency".
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2026184
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t; deserve, or at least, that they have the right to hang on to whatever they
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iday, August 27, 2021 11:17 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
OK, curmudgeon and misanthrope that I am, I still must ask:
Why this obsession with "equality?"
Outside of the abstraction of math, no one thing is equal, in a
tor by certain rights,
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>> Where is John Dobson when we need him. Could somebody please
>> forward this note to him. I don’t have his email address here
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From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 10:17 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
Purely from my academic understanding of the subject; the Nick th
Purely from my academic understanding of the subject; the Nick that is, at this
moment / in this incarnation, is a product of karma accrued and shed over
multiple instances of existence. Hence, what you are now is precisely what you
_deserve_ to be. All persons may have been created equal some u
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Yeah, talk of equality is sophistry, in the bad sense of the word. But, NOT
being a postmodernist, myself, I read *through* the word to a constellation of
ideals behind it, including dyed in the wool socialism, if not a
I appreciate the shift from "/equality/" as some kind of universal
and/or objective to "/respect/" as something closer to a localized,
pairwise set of relations. If the earth is covered with humans who
have significant mutual respect among our social networks/relations,
that leads to a smooth if
Yeah, talk of equality is sophistry, in the bad sense of the word. But, NOT
being a postmodernist, myself, I read *through* the word to a constellation of
ideals behind it, including dyed in the wool socialism, if not anarchism. But
unlike Nick's creation myth, I tend to think of it in terms of
In seventh grade we in learned that the obvious falsity of the proposition
is solved by realizing that it means that all men are (should be)
politically equal. I'm not sure that's what the writers meant.
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140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
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Marcus wrote:
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> with the big bang, and you will go where you will go. There is no
> “deserve”.
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"The universe is flux, all else is opinion" - M. Aurelius
and...
"they're merely talking to hear themselve
ty Coffee Group'
Subject: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"
Sarbajit,
If I understand the shape of the globe correctly, you are waking up pretty
soon, and I would like to pick up the conversation about caste, if you don't
mind.
I believe the proposition in the subj
Sarbajit,
If I understand the shape of the globe correctly, you are waking up pretty
soon, and I would like to pick up the conversation about caste, if you don't
mind.
I believe the proposition in the subject line. Given the many ways that
proposition can be understood as plainly fals
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