Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-26 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Steve Smith wrote at 04/25/2013 10:35 PM: http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/tealaser/tealaser7.htm Nice! I think I have my next dorkbot project. I had to quit going to the meetings because I was so embarrassed that I hadn't done anything in so long. And my theramin project was a complete

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-25 Thread Steve Smith
In the spirit of Glen's offerings of DIY Science, here is one I was recently tracking... http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/tealaser/tealaser7.htm FYI T.E.A stands for transversely excited atmospheric laser... and it essentially uses the 70+% N2 in the atmosphere as the active element... the

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-24 Thread Arlo Barnes
I would say self-control is a sufficient but not necessary condition for doing science. Besides the joy that it gives me to find out about it, my life will be more or less the same whether I know the ratio of blue to red elliptical galaxies or not. I saw there was another (currently small) thread

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread Russ Abbott
I'm not sure what the relevance is. I can do DIY science by getting access to whatever scientific equipment is needed to do the experiments. Does it really matter what it takes to get access to that equipment? It may be easy; it may be hard. But if it's possible what's the difference as far as

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread glen ropella
On 04/22/2013 11:37 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: But if it's possible what's the difference as far as your perspective on what science is? My point was that you, too, can build a device that might allow you to test E=mc^2. It was in response to your statement that: On 04/22/2013 11:15 AM, Russ

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread Russ Abbott
But I can test E=mc^2 by gaining access to the equipment that allows for such tests. I don't have to build it myself. I still don't see the difference. My original point wasn't about testing e=mc^2; it was about using it in my daily life. I still don't see how I would use it other than in devices

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread glen ropella
Sorry, I did not intend that you would use a scientific theory in your daily life. I merely wanted to say that E=mc^2 is _not_ science. The science lies in the test, the actions you can take. I thought I said that. But maybe I was unclear. On 04/23/2013 07:57 AM, Russ Abbott wrote: But I

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread Russ Abbott
I still don't get it. If person x tests e=mc^2 and person y doesn't, then is e=mc^2 science to person x but not to person y? Is that the case even if person x tells person y about his test (or shows person y a video of his test)? I'm not sure what the point of this is any more. *-- Russ Abbott*

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread Nicholas Thompson
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] DIY science On 04/22/2013 11:37 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: But if it's possible what's the difference as far as your perspective on what science is? My point was that you, too, can build a device that might allow you to test E

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread Russ Abbott
: Re: [FRIAM] DIY science On 04/22/2013 11:37 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: But if it's possible what's the difference as far as your perspective on what science is? My point was that you, too, can build a device that might allow you to test E=mc^2. It was in response to your statement

Re: [FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-23 Thread Eric Smith
Hi Russ, I still don't see how I would use it other than in devices that I don't build but that take advantage of it--although I can't think of any of those either. If I am not mistaken, accurate GPS, and perhaps even the GPS in common usage, needs to make appropriate corrections for the

[FRIAM] DIY science

2013-04-22 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Given the other discussion of the usability or testability of some scientific theories, I thought these might be interesting links: Build A Fusion Reactor http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-A-Fusion-Reactor/ Bringing particle physics to life: build your own cloud chamber