Re: [FRIAM] Downward Hicausation

2017-11-21 Thread Eric Charles
What great timing! One of the best philosophy comics on the web right now is "Existential Comics." This very week they took a swipe at "causation." Here is an adventure of Sherlock Hume: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/212 I suspect that the best I can do to contribute beyond that is to try

Re: [FRIAM] Downward Hicausation

2017-11-21 Thread gⅼеɳ ☣
Also Known As: Beware equating experience with existence. On 11/21/2017 02:00 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Beware the tendency to think that if you can't immediately measure something > then it doesn't exist. -- ☣ gⅼеɳ FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Downward Hicausation

2017-11-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
Nick, As I recall, there is more than one problem with the counterfactual definition of causation. I think once when we talked about this some years ago I told you that the definition of causation that my CMU colleagues find most useful is: A causes B if the occurrence of A causes a change in

Re: [FRIAM] Downward Hicausation

2017-11-21 Thread Nick Thompson
Hi, Frank, Sorry I let this slip by the first time. I have never understood how one can square the counterfactual definition of causality Hume … concluded with a statement that A causes B if B would not have occurred unless A had occurred. With the Pragamatic Maxim