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> Date: 9/17/2009 1:37:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence
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, as we will see, the position of William Wimsatt, I think.
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> > From: Russ Abbott
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> > Sent: 9/14/2009 10:19:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence
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> - Original Message -
> From: Russ Abbott
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Cof
Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: 9/14/2009 10:19:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence
Owen,
Here's how I would start.
I'm not scientist enough to know what 'configuration physics' or 'configuration
chemistry' mean
Owen,
Here's how I would start.
I'm not scientist enough to know what 'configuration physics' or
'configuration chemistry' means. My guess is that it means something like a
structured collection of matter where the structure itself is important. One
of my friends likes to talk about that sort of
and Ethology,
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> From: russell standish
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Date: 9/15/2009 5:39:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Semin
[This is an email I sent to the reading group. It's title was:
Emergence, Chaos Envy, and Formalization of Complexity
I think that, rather than worrying about the existing concepts of
emergence, we would be far better off looking at the history of Chaos
and how they achieved amazing results
>From the text below, it is apparent that British emergence is not the
same beast as what we call emergence today. Those very
"configurational forces" you mention are precisely what I mean by
emergent phenomena, which is entirely consistent with how the term is
used in the complex systems literatur
As I read it, the issue isn't whether structures and/or configurations
are/aren't important, the question is whether they operate according
to emergent or resultant rule sets.
The Emergentists were betting heavily on the emergent rule set. They
believed that the variety of chemistry couldn't poss
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- Original Message -
From: Russ Abbott
To: nickthomp...@earthlink.net;The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
Group
Sent: 9/14/2009 5:39:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Emergence Seminar--British Emergence
That's the problem I have with taking histor
That's the problem I have with taking historical ideas seriously. Why
should we care whether whatever the British Emergentists thought makes sense
now? What we should care about is what does make sense now? Of course, as I
mentioned to you (Nick) privately, my wife, who works in Early Modern
Engl
All,
I would like to appeal for some help from The List with the chapter we are
reading this week in the Emergence Seminar. One of the central assertions of
the author is that quantum mechanics put the British Emergentists out of
business by making "configurational" forces seem unlikely. He
Dear Nick,
So how did it go? I had to make a decision, and I wasn't sure of the
time or place for emergence--so I spent the day at the inaugural
national organizing meeting of the Slow Money Movement at the Santa Fe
Farmers Market. It was---awesome! I have a deep interest in
transformatio
All,
The emergence seminar met at Downtown Subscription this afternoon and survived
a hailstorm, so I am feeling pretty perky about it. Next week, we will read
The Rise and Fall of British Emergentism by Brian P. McLaughlin. British
Emergentism is charming to read about.It is all so in
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