Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-17 Thread Owen Densmore
Not to Bump, but the Warren Buffet Op-Ed & Charlie Rose interview both referred to the strait jacket each of the 17 EU countries is in: they can't print money! I suppose the Euro Bonds are an attempt to fix all this? http://goo.gl/JWpWZ But when one of the worlds most successful financial practit

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-10 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Yes, but... economic issues aside... there was a greater risk in the European mission of ultra-multiculturalism than many appreciated. If you want to be a great, open democracy, you take the risk that one day enough religious Muslims will move to your country that they can democratically enact shar

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-10 Thread Jochen Fromm
Multiculturalism is a good thing, the USA is a good example for this. In Europe we have France, Italy, Germany, Greece and Spain. Each country has a its own wonderful language, individual history and rich culture. And yet all of them have a common economic and political system. I think an econom

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread Owen Densmore
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM, John Sadd wrote: > Our friend Paul Krugman at the (NY) Times has written on the latter subject > a number of times, including this one: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/**04/30/opinion/30krugman.html > > The

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread Victoria Hughes
Hm. I was a corporate kid whose family was transferred globally every three years. I came back to the US to go to college (did not do the Junior Year Abroad option) stayed in that same town for 8 years after graduating, then began to move again; around the US this time, every year or two,

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Glen, Excellent observation at the end. I don't know much about the human data (is there an anthropologist in the house?), but for every non-human primate species I know of, and most other mammals, either males disperse from their childhood groups, or females disperse. To have members of both sexes

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread glen e. p. ropella
John Sadd wrote circa 11-08-09 12:22 PM: > 1. Monetary union without true mobility is not feasible (more specific > than "just" political union). If things get bad in Nevada, people can > move elsewhere to look for jobs. If things get bad in Greece, it's not > realistic to expect Greeks to move to

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread Owen Densmore
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: > I have a clarifying (to me) question: When you say "MC" and > "integration" and "The US has eschewed xyz", what scale and mechanisms > provide your context? > > By scale, I mean spectra like from interpersonal <-> US culture and city >

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread John Sadd
Our friend Paul Krugman at the (NY) Times has written on the latter subject a number of times, including this one: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/opinion/30krugman.html The gist of his argument is I think two issues: 1. Monetary union without true mobility is not feasible (more specific t

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Owen, My understanding of European 'Multiculturalism' - gained through many discussions with European colleagues - is that it has all of the vices of the old US 'separate but equal', with none of the virtues. That is, there is no real caveat for 'equal' and no real caveat for 'separate'. The MC ex

Re: [FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread glen e. p. ropella
I have a clarifying (to me) question: When you say "MC" and "integration" and "The US has eschewed xyz", what scale and mechanisms provide your context? By scale, I mean spectra like from interpersonal <-> US culture and city ordinance <-> Constitution, borrowing tools from neighbors <-> credit d

[FRIAM] Europe: 2 questions

2011-08-09 Thread Owen Densmore
I really appreciate our mail list that started 10 yrs or so ago has become so world-wide. So I'd like to ask two questions which the US press ignores or misunderstands, and to which my only other regular source, the Economist, may have a bias. They are: - Multiculturalism (MC). - Euro monitory un