Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-03-16 Thread Arlo Barnes
I propose a new, potentially lengthy discussion topic for FRIAM: why, and/or why not plain ASCII text email readers are/are not superior to html readers. Points awarded for verbosity. Points detracted for succinctness. You have been advised. What are the points awarded/detracted for using

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-03-16 Thread Douglas Roberts
Bonus points for environmentally-friendly re-use of other people's rants, Arlo. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Arlo Barnes arlo.bar...@gmail.com wrote: I propose a new, potentially lengthy discussion topic for FRIAM: why, and/or why not plain ASCII text email readers are/are not superior

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-03-16 Thread Douglas Roberts
Although I must point out that our two ASCII emailers will never see this... On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Bonus points for environmentally-friendly re-use of other people's rants, Arlo. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Arlo Barnes

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-03-16 Thread glen e p ropella
On 03/16/2013 02:25 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: Although I must point out that our two ASCII emailers will never see this... Actually, I did click on Arlo's links because I could _infer_ the contents of the web pages by the URL, something I have trouble doing with your URLs. On Sat, Mar 16,

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-04 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Heh, that was nice. I usually have my client set to view the bodies as plain text... but I must have been trying to view some marketing crap when I last used it, because I'd left it on view as html, which allowed me to see the render. Personally, if everyone would use a fixed width font, I

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-04 Thread Barry MacKichan
Orfrom Scientific WorkPlace and Apple Mail.The above is a graphic. Scientific WorkPlace can also generate MathML, so the following method also works when the mail allows HTML.Apple Mail seems not to.--BarryIf the graphic doesn't appear inline, then maybe it's time to upgrade.On Feb 3, 2013, at

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-03 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 2/1/13 7:25 PM, Russell Standish wrote: Not convinced that HTML added anything useful ... Being able to typeset maths in email _would_ be useful, but so far HTML has completely failed at that problem. In the meantime, LaTeX encoding has grown to fill the void... Hmm, sounds like a

[FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
Two of them, actually. http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/epic-fail.html http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-natives-are-getting-restless.html -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins *

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Is there any chance you could post a little blurb to go with these links so that we don't have to click the link in order to find out whether or not we want[ed] to click the link? I've been rick-rolled enough to avoid clicking links with no blurbs. 8^) Douglas Roberts wrote at 02/01/2013 01:35

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
Well yes, but I'm afraid one, or at most two clicks are required. Here's the procedure: 1) Click on the link (I know, you wanted to avoid that, but...) 2) Squint at just the first sentence or two. If 2) a. the article looks like something you might be interested in reading, open your eyes more

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
/smartass-mode On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Well yes, but I'm afraid one, or at most two clicks are required. Here's the procedure: 1) Click on the link (I know, you wanted to avoid that, but...) 2) Squint at just the first sentence or two. If

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Russell Standish
Think of the people who do not read their email in a web browser. I'm one of those, and I have my reasons (over and above just being a curmudgeon, of course). The procedure here is: 1. copy the link, 2. start a text editor 3. paste it into a text editor, 4. remove spurious line feeds and

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
Wow. I had forgotten that I was on a mailing list populated by dinosaurs. Thanks for reminding me. What do you use, Russ. Mutt? Or Pine? Or mail. Or do you just do more on /var/spool/mail? :) On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Russell Standish r.stand...@unsw.edu.auwrote: Think of the people

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
Well, ok then: a synopsis: Google has by now pissed off enough people by their lethargic, lackluster attention to serious bugs that were introduced into Android by them (they own Android, of course the introduced the bugs, duh) back in November last year. What's the bid deal? wifi either

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
I can only imagine all the white-out carefully painted on your cathode ray tube ascii terminals. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Well, ok then: a synopsis: Google has by now pissed off enough people by their lethargic, lackluster attention to

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 03:59:23PM -0700, Douglas Roberts wrote: Wow. I had forgotten that I was on a mailing list populated by dinosaurs. Thanks for reminding me. What do you use, Russ. Mutt? Or Pine? Or mail. Or do you just do more on /var/spool/mail? :) I use mutt these days -

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
Of course, you might ask why I don't use the builtin email reader in emacs. I don't have a real answer to that - habit perhaps? Yeah, I used to do that. Back in the 80's Why do people think reading email as text is dinosaurian? Only because it is. But if it rox your sox, have at it!

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Owen Densmore
Bravo! Pure text is pure joy. The power users destroyed email by adding more and more unnecessary stuff to it, feature upon feature. For a while the incompatibilities between mail clients were absurd. Mime helped, and alas, HTML even more. I guess we should be happy that mail didn't grow to

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:49:13PM -0700, Owen Densmore wrote: Bravo! Pure text is pure joy. The power users destroyed email by adding more and more unnecessary stuff to it, feature upon feature. For a while the incompatibilities between mail clients were absurd. You mean like Outlook,

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Steve Smith
I upgraded to less about 10 years ago, it makes it easier to scroll through my mail backwards, more or less, though I think these days more is just an alias to less, more or less. Wow. I had forgotten that I was on a mailing list populated by dinosaurs. Thanks for reminding me. What do you

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
I propose a new, potentially lengthy discussion topic for FRIAM: why, and/or why not plain ascii text email readers are/are not superior to html readers. Points awarded for verbosity. Points detracted for succinctness. You have been advised. --Doug On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Steve

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Steve Smith
Doug - I think I have you in a double bind, my early submission was a pretty succinct but verbose bit of commentary worthy only of me. I'm guessing my points cancel and I get a big fat zero? - Steve I propose a new, potentially lengthy discussion topic for FRIAM: why, and/or why not plain

Re: [FRIAM] Ho, Hum. Another Day, Another Blog Post Critical of Google

2013-02-01 Thread Douglas Roberts
You know what, Steve? I can happily live with that! Happy Weekend to you! --Doug On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Doug - I think I have you in a double bind, my early submission was a pretty succinct but verbose bit of commentary worthy only of me.