[FRIAM] Ignorant, Again!

2011-09-24 Thread plissaman
Can someone tell me, in my doomed ignorance, how they timed that too-speedy particle arriving at CERN?  I know it's elementary for those to whom it is.  Mebbe Bruce Sherwood can give a briefing?  I welcome. Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures Expertise is not knowing everything, but knowing

Re: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again!

2011-09-24 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Subject: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again! Can someone tell me, in my doomed ignorance, how they timed that too-speedy particle arriving at CERN? I know it's elementary for those to whom it is. Mebbe Bruce Sherwood can give a briefing? I welcome. Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures Expertise

Re: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again!

2011-09-24 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/24/2011 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: It was done with GPS (!) PolaRx2e GPS receivers that end up providing 2.3 +/- 0.9 ns resolution See page 9 of http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.4897v1 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again!

2011-09-24 Thread Carl Tollander
...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *plissa...@comcast.net *Sent:* Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:10 PM *To:* friam@redfish.com *Subject:* [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again! Can someone tell me, in my doomed ignorance, how they timed that too-speedy particle arriving at CERN? I know it's

Re: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again!

2011-09-24 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Nifty, Carl. It was gps. Blimey. N From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Carl Tollander Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:38 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again! http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/09/neutrino

Re: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again!

2011-09-24 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/24/2011 3:02 PM, Carl Tollander wrote: Tiny, but I get where you're going with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_dragging Here's the report from Gravity Probe B that observed it: http://arxiv.org/abs/1105.3456 At 37.2 milli-arc seconds/yr, separated by 730km, it doesn't seem to be

Re: [FRIAM] Ignorant, Again!

2011-09-24 Thread Douglas Roberts
Yes, but it's a tough love. --Doug On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Stephen Guerin stephen.gue...@redfish.comwrote: On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: I am nervous to ask this question for fear that Peter and Doug will yell at me again,