Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

The student should focus on the word danger, which the Lab Tech should have used. I politely ignore bad advice. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 4:43 PM Eric Charles wrote: > Frank, let's run with that! > >

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

Frank, let's run with that! Assuming it was stupid to bring up atoms, how SHOULD the student respond? Verbally and behaviorally? How do you typically respond to stupid advice? :- ) On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 6:19 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > My conclusion: the Lab Tech was dumb for mentioning

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

larku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 6:19 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick My conclusion: the Lab Tech was dumb for ment

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

My conclusion: the Lab Tech was dumb for mentioning atoms. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 3:21 PM Eric Charles wrote: > Two preliminaries: > 1) For what it's worth, I am trying to back Nick into a different corner

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

Two preliminaries: 1) For what it's worth, I am trying to back Nick into a different corner than the one Mike thinks I am but Mike is correct in seeing that I don't want to let Nick weasel out of the confrontation. It is perfectly valid for Nick to point out that he is proud of any student who

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

It's not called breakfast at noon. I am wearing black socks. During the Korean War my dad would say that he had to wear his blue uniform. I would say that it wasn't blue but black. I have it stored away. There's nothing blue about it. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM

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Mike and Eric, I have deleted Jon from this thread because I have reason to believe is bores him. I woke up this morning with my own version of the pragmaticist maxim. The thing is just all the evidence of the thing. And then I realized that there is a paradox hidden in that

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

Dear Friends, Eric has prompted me to wade into this thread, but I confess I have not well understood the issues, even from the start. So much of subsequent characterization of my position feels so foreign to me that I don’t now how to relate it to what I believe. As understand the

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

Well... yes but of course we recognize that Mike is reading into the student exactly the sophistication I did not give her, which makes his version a much better dialog for illustrating certain points, at the expense of me trying to gut-punch Nick by having him overhear a student completely

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And you dismissed my perfectly valid response as "churlish". EricC also replied with an extension of the dialog. https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/2022-September/093314.html On 9/23/22 13:49, Frank Wimberly wrote: Yes, and I sent you a brief description of freshman year at

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

Yes, and I sent you a brief description of freshman year at Carnegie Tech in1961-62. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Sep 23, 2022, 1:24 PM wrote: > Did you guys not get this? > > > > Nick Thompson > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > >

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Did you guys not get this? Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: thompnicks...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 2:59 PM To: 'Mike Bybee' ; 'Eric

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

Mike captures key aspects of what I was trying to say very well: That there are different types of conversations happening, and they involve different levels of clarity. Glen also picks up on the general assholery which might have been too subtle for Nick, so I want to draw it out for a few more

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It's unclear to me why friam@redfish.com was CC'ed. But I'll assume it's an open invitation to argue ... The Student's response seems, to me, to be clear evidence of a Bad Faith contrarian. Anyone who has any interaction with any chemicals at all, knows the "language of a lab tech". The

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

I think this comes very close to our discussion on operationism. My response to eric’s challenge on that score was his “quantity” argument, which he himself disavowed. The attempt to identify a concept by a single operation or even by operations within a single paradigm is operationism, which

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I am at the moment living in a remote colony of rich peoples shacks, Hence no Internet. But I like the question so well I am forwarding it to the list. I will get back to you when I do not have to thumb my answer. N Sent from my Dumb Phone On Aug 30, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Eric Charles wrote: