Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-09 Thread Phil Henshaw
Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies You guys all seem to be missing the difference between the value of reducing your solution and the error of ignoring the complexities of your problem. I find it's often going out of my way to trace

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Kenneth Lloyd
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:42 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Cc: Aku Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies Orlando- You can find good references in Wikipedia http

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Steve Smith wrote: I, myself, prefer (simple) reductionistic simplifications over (complex) handwaving ones (see Occam's Razor) most of the time, but when the going gets tough (or the systems get complex), reductionism *becomes* nothing more than handwaving in my experience. That's a

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Steve Smith
Ken - Reductionism has its place in the analytical phase at equilibrium. Analysis is normally a study of integrable, often linear systems, but it can be accomplished on non-linear, feed-forwardsystems as well. Well said... The synthesis phase puts information re: complex

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Robert Cordingley
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:42 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Cc: Aku Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies Orlando-

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Kenneth Lloyd
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:42 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Cc: Aku Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies Orlando- You can find good references in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Jack Leibowitz
with the book's discussion on formal analysis in art). Jack. - Original Message - From: Robert Cordingley To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies I'm

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Phil Henshaw
very different way. Phil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:17 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies Ken

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-08 Thread Kenneth Lloyd
- they are solved all at once. Ken _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Henshaw Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:15 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies You

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-07 Thread Steve Smith
Orlando- You can find good references in Wikipedia on this topic, including the Descartes references. Reductionism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Descartes held that non-human animals could be reductively explained as automata De homines 1662. Reductionism can either mean

Re: [FRIAM] Reductionism - was: Young but distant gallaxies

2008-09-07 Thread Orlando Leibovitz
Thanks Steve. O Steve Smith wrote: Orlando- You can find good references in Wikipedia on this topic, including the Descartes references. Reductionism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Descartes held that non-human animals could be reductively explained as automata