Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-09 Thread siddharth
(204) 2548321 Land (204) 8016064 Cell *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Douglas Roberts *Sent:* May-06-11 7:37 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits Salaam

[FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Steve Smith
Mohammed - I want to second Peggy's thanks for your thoughts and would like to add the following to hers: I agree with Peggy on most points. Terrorism is always horrific (it is designed to be so) and we should seek to avoid provoking it and prevent it's occurrence and mitigate it's effects

Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Mohammed El-Beltagy
Thanks Steve and Peggy, you give me more praise than I deserve. I naturally see terrorism as abhorrent and I regret that Russel read my few lines as an attempt to be an apologists for those who attack the US and Israel. I am against any form of violence being exercised against any human being,

Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Douglas Roberts
Salaam Mohammed, Speaking as an American, I'm afraid that I can assert with a fair degree of accuracy that percentage-wise, very few Americans are aware of the historical/current events vis-a-vis US interactions with mid-eastern political entities that you so accurately denote below. For reasons

Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Steve Smith
I knew we could depend on you Doug! My own twisted optimism is nicely complemented by your, what do you call it, /pragmatism/? Sadly, to first order, I think your description of us as a planet of idiots comes way too close... my only bicker with it is perhaps whether there is something to

Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Douglas Roberts
Optimists usually view it as pessimism, Steve. But they're wrong. Realism/pragmatism is my lodestone. --Doug Postscript: To those who wish to run away from the FRIAM list, taking their marbles with them under the guise of *You're not complex enough for me!* let me just say, Don't let the door

Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Sarbajit Roy
*But, to say that it is down to some group of human beings who are simply evil and hateful is equally mindless. They US played a significant part in this monster creation. To my mind, the processes of monster creation is still active. That worries me. That must stop.* To use a LoTR analogy, I'd

Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Mohammed El-Beltagy
I have a question I would like to pose to the group in that regard: Can we model/simulate how in a democracy that is inherently open (as stated in the constitution: for the people, by the people etc..) there emerges decision masking structures emerge that actively obfuscate the participatory

Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
:37 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits Salaam Mohammed, Speaking as an American, I'm afraid that I can assert with a fair degree of accuracy that percentage-wise, very few Americans are aware of the historical/current