Re: [FRIAM] Ukraine and NATO

2022-01-25 Thread Steve Smith
Patrick - Always (more than) 2 sides to a topic... thanks for speaking to this.   I think some of the analogies to our feelings about Soviet-Cuban relations is still relevant.   That doesn't mean that Putin/Russia isn't up to something ultimately really bad for "the West"... I had Ukranian

Re: [FRIAM] Ukraine and NATO

2022-01-25 Thread Marcus Daniels
on behalf of Patrick Reilly Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 3:39 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ukraine and NATO I first note that the US engineered a coup in the Ukraine to eject a pro-Russian President. I add that NOT having any former Warsaw Bloc

Re: [FRIAM] Ukraine and NATO

2022-01-25 Thread Patrick Reilly
I first note that the US engineered a coup in the Ukraine to eject a pro-Russian President. I add that NOT having any former Warsaw Bloc or former Soviet Republic incorporated as a NATO state was explicitly promised prior to the USSR peacefully disintegrating. And how many nations has the US

Re: [FRIAM] Ukraine and NATO

2022-01-25 Thread Marcus Daniels
I think the issue is, like Sweden and Finland, they have the role to Russia as buffers to U.S. medium range missiles. > On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:37 AM, glen wrote: > > Why Ukraine is still not a NATO member: who is to blame and what to do? >