Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-06 Thread Arlo Barnes
You are bit by bit dragging me out on thin ice here (statistics and probability) which is fine, so long as you are prepared to rescue me. I think, as a matter of practice, that the strength of an inference is determined *a priori* when you define your population and select your sample size.

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-06 Thread Eric Smith
Hi Nick (who started the thread, regarding induction, but teasing with current events), and Arlo who has kept it alive, For days I have been trying not to respond, but … This is about the nuclear option, not about induction. Malcolm Gladwell had a piece in the New Yorker about David and

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-06 Thread mar...@snoutfarm.com
Eric writes: There is a kind of meanness or cynicism that likes to see hope dashed and beauty destroyed, and this meanness answers me by saying that if it isn't in the rules enforced with a gun, it isn't real, and only patsies fail to know that. What a fantastic post. I would answer this

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-06 Thread Eric Smith
I would answer this way, but it isn't because I want to see hope dashed and beauty destroyed. It's because I want to destroy the destroyers. Marcus Yes. I understand. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-06 Thread Jim Dunn
Thanks Joyce! I did receive the message you forwarded to me. I think I’m set. Jim On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Eric Smith desm...@santafe.edu wrote: Hi Nick (who started the thread, regarding induction, but teasing with current events), and Arlo who has kept it alive, For days I have been

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-05 Thread Steve Smith
] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option The adjective weak seems to relate to how much money you should be willing to bet on it. In this case, with the sample size at one, and the population at billions, Peirce would advise you to bet very little if anything, until you had a much

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-05 Thread glen e. p. ropella
On 12/04/2013 07:39 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: Yes (he would say), assuming that you were chosen at random from the population of humans, it is a VALID inference from the fact that you can break concrete that humans can break concrete. It is valid because we would, if we continued to pick

[FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-04 Thread Nick Thompson
This http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/12/04/why-i-was-wrong-a bout-the-nuclear-option/ reminded of our discussion about a year ago concerning the so-called fallacy of induction. Do any of you know about grue and green. Grue is a property of grass that it is green, just until

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-04 Thread Gillian Densmore
Mr. Thompson, New-Clear options? In what context? Logic trap? The logic trap that's popular in colleges goes about like: Gill is a human able obliterate concrete and kick ass in MMA, therefore all humans can kick ass in MMA and make short work of concrete. = On Wed, Dec

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-04 Thread glen e. p. ropella
On 12/04/2013 09:46 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: if you take for granted that the world is not the sort of place that changes on a dime. And where else could you have learned that save by induction. Perhaps the fallacy doesn't lie in the general concept of reinforcement learning, but in the

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-04 Thread Nick Thompson
: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:56 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option Mr. Thompson, New-Clear options? In what context? Logic trap? The logic trap that's popular in colleges goes about like: Gill

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-04 Thread Gillian Densmore
[mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian Densmore *Sent:* Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:56 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option Mr. Thompson, New-Clear options? In what context

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-04 Thread Arlo Barnes
The adjective “weak” seems to relate to how much money you should be willing to bet on it. In this case, with the sample size at one, and the population at billions, Peirce would advise you to bet very little if anything, until you had a much larger sample. So is strength of an inference

Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option

2013-12-04 Thread Nick Thompson
] On Behalf Of Arlo Barnes Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:18 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Why I was wrong about the nuclear option The adjective weak seems to relate to how much money you should be willing to bet on it. In this case