Re: [FRIAM] AI advance

dfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian > Densmore > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM > > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] AI advance > > > > Hmmm why do I worry about 'clankers&#

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Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] AI advance Hmmm why do I worry about 'clankers' deciding humans are jerks and suddenly we're living inside a game while the robots laugh and play agame of Unu? I think I saw that move. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Marcus Dani

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botnets of human criminals and script-kiddies. > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert J. > Cordingley > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:24 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM]

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be better at it than the botnets of human criminals and script-kiddies. -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert J. Cordingley Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:24 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] AI a

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So once AI machines are allowed to start designing themselves with at least the goal for increasing performance, how long have we got? (It doesn't matter whether we (ie the US) allow that or some other resourceful, perhaps military, organization does it.) Didn't Hawking fear runaway AI as a big

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To consider the issue perhaps more seriously, AI100 was created two years ago at Stanford University, funded by Eric Horowitz and his wife. Eric is an early AI pioneer at Microsoft. It’s a hundred-year, rolling study of the many impacts of AI, and it plans to issue reports every five years based

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In a book I read several years ago, whose title I cannot recall, the conclusion was: "They may have created us, but they keep gumming things up. They have outlived their usefulness. Better to just get rid of them." -JS On 1/31/17 7:41 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Steve writes: "Maybe... but

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On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Pamela McCorduck wrote: > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:32 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > > > > >> " AlphaGo itself isn't scary it's what comes next and so on and how > quickly these advances are progressing that give some great minds cause for > concern." > >> > >>

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Steve writes: > I *did* like the image of AI offered up in the movie "She" a few years ago. Pamela writes: > Me too, especially how lonely the humans were when their AI pals deserted > them because frankly, they were too boring. Well, I was rooting for Maeve

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> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:32 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > >> " AlphaGo itself isn't scary it's what comes next and so on and how quickly >> these advances are progressing that give some great minds cause for concern." >> >> I just hope it comes soon. Humans aren't making very good decisions l

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Steve writes: "Maybe... but somehow I'm not a lot more confident in the *product* of humans who make bad decisions making *better* decisions?" Nowadays machine learning is much more unsupervised.Self-taught, if you will. Such a consciousness might reasonably decide, "Oh they created us b

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" AlphaGo itself isn't scary it's what comes next and so on and how quickly these advances are progressing that give some great minds cause for concern." I just hope it comes soon. Humans aren't making very good decisions lately. Maybe... but somehow I'm not a lot more confident in the *produ

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" AlphaGo itself isn't scary it's what comes next and so on and how quickly these advances are progressing that give some great minds cause for concern." I just hope it comes soon. Humans aren't making very good decisions lately. Marcus =

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Vlad - Only a confirmed Go player could breathe that atmosphere. Though I wonder why Hawking is so afraid of this machine when it can humble the best of us. Just make the board much larger. At some point we will smell insulation burning. Are you sure that isn't the smell of myelin sheath burnin

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riginal Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: January-30-17 9:54 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] AI advance Vlad - I am the weakest of GO players, in spite of having considered the problem o

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Smith Sent: January-30-17 9:54 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] AI advance Vlad - I am the weakest of GO players, in spite of having considered the problem of trying to use Gosper's memoisation as a mode of associative memory problem solving. Cod

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Old article, but new to me. In any case, if true it is of interest. I was never better than 2-3 kyu, but I stopped playing some time ago.. JS On 1/30/17 8:07 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote: To Joseph Spinden, The article is old and I wonder if you play the game. I ran a Go club at the Univ

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Vlad - I am the weakest of GO players, in spite of having considered the problem of trying to use Gosper's memoisation as a mode of associative memory problem solving. Cody the M00se Dooderson has beat me every time we have played I think. Weak, weak, weak! But I do find it fascinating.

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To Joseph Spinden, The article is old and I wonder if you play the game. I ran a Go club at the University of Manitoba and can tell you strange stories about a time before Hassabis. I swear I never won a game in 5 years but I kept playing anyway. I guess I am bloody minded. Eventually I discovere

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Fascinating! I remember the broad discussions at the Cellular Automata Conference here in 1984 on the challenges/opportunities of using a CA to play GO. I had an (unpublished of course) variation on Bill Gosper's HashLife which I hoped might be a good